HomeMy WebLinkAboutREFAC Meeting minutes 1-7-2011Renewable Energy Fund Advisory Committee Meeting
January 7, 2011 — AEA Boardroom
10:00 am to 4:00pm
DRAFT MINUTES
1. Call to Order
The Renewable Energy Fund Advisory Committee convened at 10:05 a.m. Chairman Vince Beltrami
presided over the meeting.
2. Roll Call:
Committee Members AEA Staff Other Participants
Chair Vince Beltrami Mike Harper Denali Daniels, Denali Commission
Jodi Mitchell Peter Crimp Rep. Paul Seaton/Homer (phone)
Sen. Lyman Hoffman James Strandberg Mike Nave, Department of Law
Brad Reeve David Lockard Pat Walker, Sen. Hoffman’s Office (phone)
Hannah Gustafson (for Mr. Rose) Butch White Paul D. Kendall
Jim Posey Douglas Ott Julie Frizzell, Dept. of Labor/Business
Rep. Bill Thomas (phone) Emily Binnian Partnerships
Wyn Menefee Audrey Alstrom Phillip O. Kairaiuak
Richard Stromberg
James Jensen
Shauna Howell
May Clark
3. Agenda Comments
Chair Beltrami switched Agenda comments to Item 3 and Public comments to Item 4. There were no
objections.
4. Public Comments
Mr. Kendall spoke about a Letter of Understanding. He said the world’s major automobile dealers sent
out to utility and oil companies asking to begin the “hydrogen highway” now. Suggesting it will occur
sooner than 2015 — batteries and fuel cells look to be viable for the future. He cited several internet
articles that may interest the Committee. He pointed out that 13% of major utility CEO’s believe that by
the year 2050 power will be decentralized and Alaska, technologically, has a foot in both the new and the
old world.
5. Alaska State Energy Sector Partnership (ASESP)
Julie Frizzell, Program Coordinator, State of Alaska Department of Labor/Business Partnerships, spoke
about grant applications that are available for training projects under ARRA in Renewable Energy &
Energy Efficiency job training industries. The grant fund is in the amount of $3.6M and per grantee
amount is $100,000. Filing will be electronic and there is no limit on eligibility. Specific areas of training
include wind turbines, hydroelectric, biomass, geothermal and weatherization and rehabilitation of public
facilities, commercial facilities and multi-residential facilities. RE/EE jobs require upgrading skills of
incumbent workers; teaching new skills to workers in RE/EE technologies and preparing entry level
workers planning to enter RE/EE jobs and careers. The first deadline for submission of grant applications
for the first review is January 18, 2011, and they need REFAC assistance in spreading the word. Chair
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Beltrami stated he is on the steering committee for the sector partnership grants and certain partners
have already been allocated, such as AVTEC. The funds have to be spent in three years and $1.5M may
still be available in the competitive process. Ms. Mitchell asked for examples of projects granted. Ms. Frizzell said AVTEC has installed a wind turbine and is creating a curriculum for training and hiring
instructors to train technicians. Mr. Reeve asked if the smart grid would fall under this, i.e., EE advanced
metering, in home displays, and different ways to get information out of the electric system. Ms. Frizzell
said that was possible as other states are doing that. It was pointed out that RE Fund grant applicants
could also apply and they would be notified. Mr. Harper stated AEA partners with DOL and works closely
with AVTEC where AEA sends their village utility trainees. Mr. Reeve said he would inform the energy
coordinator for wind projects in the Kotzebue area. Mr. Strandberg stated he would give this information
to the SE Conference energy coordinator, as they are currently undertaking regional planning. Mr. Posey
suggested military technicians might also fit into this program.
6. Approval of Meeting Minutes — November 9, 2010
Mr. Menefee clarified the statement on page 3 of 6, “DNR announced there was going to be a new fee
schedule established to charge projects for the state permitting services.” to “DNR announced there may
be additional fees charged for projects for the state permitting services.” The minutes were approved with
the clarification.
MOTION: Mr. Posey moved to approve the meeting minutes from the November 9, 2010
Renewable Energy Fund Advisory Committee as clarified. The motion was seconded
by Ms. Mitchell. There were no objections.
7. Review AEA Round 4 Recommendations
Mr. Crimp reviewed the meeting handouts. Round 4 activities to date were recapped. The RFA was
released July 21 and 108 proposals were received on September 15 requesting $103.1M. Stage 1
review for eligibility and completeness was performed, resulting in not recommending four projects
requesting $7.5M. Stage 2 & 3 reviews were done in November and December having three major
components: 1) Economic Review was completed in December and was coordinated by ISER who
managed five economic firms that AEA hired competitively. 2) DNR Permitting & Resource Review was
coordinated by Mr. Menefee of DNR which included mining, geological and geophysical surveys and
forestry. 3) AEA Technical Staff Stage 2 & 3 Review scores were entered into our database. A printed
copy of the projects with AEA’s written review comments was provided the Committee. A ranking
spreadsheet was also provided. Stage 2 resulted in recommending no funding of 29 projects at $45.2M.
The 29 applicants who failed Stage 2, along with the four who failed Stage 1 review, were notified on
December 21 by the Grants Administrator and appeals are due January 10. Partial funding was
recommended for 31 projects at $56.5M. Total funding was recommended for 43 projects at $21.4M.
Final construction and design allocation equals 73% of a targeted 80% - 20% recon and feasibility — 50%
of the funding allocation is construction. The ranking list is preliminary subject to appeals and geographic
spreading to be discussed at this meeting.
Draft Methods for Proposal Evaluation & Grant Recommendation — January 4, 2011:
Mr. Crimp stated this is the methodology established by the REFAC for proposal review and is basically
the same as in the past with a few changes:
Under ‘Recommendation Guidelines:
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Page 8, Partial Funding Guidelines: Exception 1: “/f AEA believes project can be built for less,
then lower figure can be recommended. AEA will provide justification for lower figure in its
recommendations.” AEA found some projects too expensive so our best judgment was used and we
recommended less money, (i.e., Cordova Community Biomass: $245K was requested for assessing
buildings in Cordova, AEA recommended $75K. Bethel area: Chefornak Wind Feasibility, $250K was
requested for wind feasibility, AEA recommended $137K. Chefornak already has a MET tower installed).
Bethel is proposing a few projects on the same system. Since TDX is proposed to take over the Bethel
system later this year, AEA felt it was reasonable for them to perform the feasibility on their large scale
wind projects. The Housing Authority has proposed projects that we do not recommend funding. There’s
also a construction project in Bethel from Rounds 0 and 1 for several turbines. AEA will not take back the
funds but will ask the City to work closely with TDX and we will merge projects if local consensus is
favorable to do so.
Ossie Kairaiuak, who is from Chefornak stated Chefornak is the most populated of the 57 villages in the
Bethel region located 82 miles from Bethel and pointed out that the climate of the villages are different
and that should be considered. Mr. Posey pointed out that the discussion was centered on Bethel proper
and not Bethel region and we are aware of the differences from one village to another. Mr. Crimp pointed
out that the detailed recommendations show what AEA is trying to accomplish and that “one size does not
fit all” in the review process. The evaluation guidelines lay out the rules.
Page 13, Stage 3 Criterion Local Support: “Letters of support from legislators do not count toward
this criterion.” This was discussed at the last meeting and agreed to. All present were in agreement,
including Rep. Thomas. Rep. Seaton stated he would make a public comment if a separate issue arose.
Page 13, Stage 3 Criterion Project Readiness: “Proposed work is reconnaissance level and is
consistent with specific recommendations under the Alaska Energy Pathway.” If a Pathway
specifically addresses, i.e., wood energy, in a community and the community comes up with a plan to
implement it, they would receive additional emphasis, for a total of 14 points.
Page 14, Stage 3 Sustainability: Text was added to address the capability of grantee to demonstrate
the capacity, both administratively and financially, to provide for the long-term operation and maintenance
of the proposed project, 2) likelihood of the resource being available over the life of the project, 3)
likelihood of market for energy produced over the life of the project. Basically, what are the risks the
project will not happen in the future? Mr. Posey asked how that analysis would affect some of the
resource oriented projects such as fish plants — that would be difficult to evaluate. Mr. Crimp agreed and
said the five points involved are important points. Another example would be a community rapidly losing
population and availability of timber to support a mill. Mr. Posey asked if the criteria followed the Denali
Commission's guidelines. Ms. Daniels, manager of energy programs for the Denali Commission, pointed
out that the Denali Commission’s process of evaluation is non-competitive. As projects become ready to
proceed, they look at sustainability and minimum requirements. Sustainability is measured through a
business plan and a thorough due diligence process. Mr. Crimp stated AEA used the Denali
Commission’s sustainability guidelines in writing our criteria. Mr. Reeve asked if there was a way to
measure the fuel sources in the regions, i.e., biomass projects, to determine what the sustainable levels
are regarding distances to travel and expenses. Stating it’s good to see more heat projects as they have
an immediate effect and can that be measured into the sustainability equation. Mr. Crimp said yes,
through a detailed land use plan. AEA program manager, Devany Plentovich, is working with State
Forestry to set up a procedure of compiling the data which will be provided through the Alaska Data
Inventory System. In the RE Fund, there are individual projects doing those type of resource
assessments. Mr. Harper pointed out that one of the main elements of the Pathway was to visit the 228
communities to inventory their power, electricity, heat and transportation needs. Mr. Posey said since
the Pathway assessment was not a complete assessment of the biomass available, it could be a large
part of the heating question he discussed with Senator Hoffman; what could be done about heating on a
project basis, how much is there and how much more work has to be done to look at heat versus electric.
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It's a big piece for fuel use for the existing communities. Mr. Menefee pointed out that fuel sources are
not just about the availability of the physical (biomass), but also about land management restraints —
access through private lands to reach them.
Mr. Posey said the state governments and private and federal interests should be open for business in
dealing with the communities and solving the problems in working towards the same sustainability. With
the price of fuel rising, there’s not a lot of time to solve the problems. We need to talk about those issues
with Sen. Hoffman so that when he heads back to Juneau we need to know what resources are going to
be here. Those from the outside look at our program as the best in the world for looking at these issues
and trying to solve problems. We have put forth more effort in doing this than any other governmental
entity and we should continue to move forward. Mr. Crimp stated the biomass availability is part of the
DNR review and their work has been thorough. Mr. Posey questioned whether the new EPA rules that
are being applied to Fairbanks and other regions on air quality have been left out; i.e., using catalytic
converters and air filters. We need to use the best technology and not add to the air quality problems and
to avoid being shut down by the EPA. Mr. Crimp said we are mindful of technology being promoted. The
GARN stick-fired boilers are clean-burning and are being used in many communities and the large boilers
have emissions systems and are higher tech. Mr. Menefee said BLM lands could be used for biomass
collection, but there’s also a policy out now that will likely turn millions of acres of federal land into
wilderness study areas.
Mr. Lockard referenced two studies Devany Plentovich, AEA Biomass Program Manager, has
recommended on this matter. The first is a fact sheet entitled “A Balanced Definition of Renewable
Biomass and can accessed at http://www.ucsusa.org/assets/documents/clean_ energy/balanced-
biomass-definition.pdf. The second is a National Renewable Energy Laboratory (NREL) Technical
Report and can be found on their website under Technical Reports, March 2003, NREL/TP-510-33123,
“Biopower Technical Assessment: State of the Industry & Technology,” Chapter 6, about air emissions
comparisons with other technologies. Mr. Crimp proposed that Ms. Plentovich make a presentation to the
Committee outlining the AEA biomass program. The Committee agreed.
MOTION: Mr. Reeve moved that the REFAC approve the DRAFT Methods for Proposal Evaluation
and Grant Recommendation dated January 4, 2011 as presented. Seconded by Mr. Posey. There
were no objections.
(Senator Hoffman joined the meeting in person at 1:06 p.m.)
Page 8, Stage 4 Ranking of Applications for Funding Recommendations:
Mr. Crimp referenced the ranking sheets and detailed write-up of the project recommendations. The
preliminary ranking spreadsheets show projects ranked from numbers one to 74 and the other sheet
shows projects separated by region. The Governor’s budget was submitted for $25M for the RE Fund
and the top $25M projects are shown in green on the ranking sheet, adding up to $24.151M, the
additional dollars will be added onto the first project in the yellow area, Reynolds Creek Hydro. The list is
subject to geographic spreading and action on appeals due on January 10, 2011. Chair Beltrami said he
understands the Governor's budget is $25M, but pointed out the REFAC, being in compliance with the
statute, views the statute amount at $50M per year. All of the approved projects total only $36M, which
the Committee will want to recommend. Senator Hoffman said last year the Governor's office justification
on funding $25M was that we had prefunded $25M in the first year. Chair Beltrami said he recalls their
saying that by doing so, “we are still keeping within the $50M per year allocation,” and we want to
continue to recommend that amount. He said $36M does not come near the $50M, so the REFAC must
decide in terms of recommendations how we should approach this. Mr. Posey said we are following the
80/20 geographic spread per legislative direction, but maybe we should consider taking the caps off in
some categories to keep projects moving forward such as in reconnaissance, construction or actual
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drilling, specifically as in the Ormat project, drilling is expensive. If we took the caps off and stayed within
the guidelines, as our program is the best in the world for what we're doing, we must not step back from
that now in funding. REFAC put the caps on to make sure the money went further and we need to think
about what categories we could take the caps off, if the funding was available, or do we go beyond the
$250M, which he recommends. Ms. Gustafson asked if there was an opportunity to take a look back at
qualified applicants not funded in past years and could they be looked at for funding again. Mr. Crimp
said AEA has generally shied away from going back in time for applicants as they become stale. Many
are not stalled due to lack of funding, but are stalled for other reasons. In regards to capping, in Rounds
1 and 2 we have placed the caps on the fly and we agreed that was unfair because people didn’t know
what they were applying for; therefore, in Round 3 we allowed them to apply for additional funding.
However, in the Round 4 RFA we set a cumulative cap so that people would know before the fact the
amount of their fund to allow them other ways to finance their project. Mr. Reeve agreed with staff
procedure in handling this, adding that projects and conditions change over time and giving people the
ability to reapply works. Mr. Crimp said some grantees knew they would be capped. For example, GVEA
geared their application for the large Eva Creek wind project to bring them up to the combined cap for
final design and construction. Mr. White pointed out that Yerrick Creek Hydro in the Tok area and the
Kenai Winds projects are good examples of cumulative capping.
Senator Hoffman said he supports the concept of lifting the cap, but there has to be another upper limit,
because several projects could absorb just about all of the funds.
Ms. Daniels said, as a question to Mr. Crimp, that before the RFA was out, Denali Commission received
feedback from potential applicants that had vocalized disincentives regarding the availability of funds and
construction timelines. They were not interested in proceeding because of non-clarity about when the
funds would be available and like issues. She asked if that was a major issue since resolved, or does
that continue to be an issue. Mr. Crimp pointed out that when we first started, we were slammed with
work, so we didn’t get funds out as quickly as we wanted, but now we have plenty of staff to get the funds
out, so that is not so much an issue anymore. Ms. Daniels clarified it was more a construction season
question on legislative funding. Mr. Crimp said the problem is that by the time Legislature approves
funding and the Governor signs the bill, the date is July 1 and the fact is the construction season is lost in
most cases. Senator Hoffman said we can discuss this with Representative Thomas to see if we can get
the appropriations expedited. Representative Thomas agreed. Mr. Reeve also agreed that was an
interesting concept, which may not mean a lot of money had to be put into it, but $5M for example could
be used as a reserve to get those approved projects going so they could be out the door immediately to
hit a construction season that summer-fall. Senator Hoffman commented that could also put the
Governor in a position of making a level of funding decision earlier. Mr. Crimp said the applications were
sent in with the idea of certain timing and the feasibility analysis would be completed with permitting, etc.
and questioned how many projects would move faster if more funding were to be made available as the
framework has been set up for the applicants. It would be a good idea next time around if we could ask
them if they would like to receive their funding earlier to allow a jump on the construction season.
Senator Hoffman said that would be worthwhile to consider — so that we are ready when the appropriation
is ready.
Ms. Daniels said it was still unclear as to whether or not the lower number of applicants had anything to
do with a potential disincentive with that timeline, which relates back to the total number we are
considering for the program and is probably something AEA cannot confirm. Mr. Posey said the first
principle to learn in dealing with the government is you must turn square corners, which is appropriation
and timing when money is available. Mr. Crimp asked Senator Hoffman if he was suggesting we look at
the projects to see which ones could be sped up if funding were available. Senator Hoffman affirmed this
stating if a higher amount was put to Legislature it would be in place and when the Governor decides his
amount or veto there’s less chance of reducing the amount in session. Mr. Crimp said AEA has seen
money not spent and during this review we are trying to get it right third time around, we are not allocating
funds for projects we don’t think are going to happen within a reasonable timeframe. AEA was stricter in
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adhering to the guidelines and we feel that it reflects poorly on the program if projects don’t go forward,
which therefore jeopardizes the program. We lay out our reasons for not recommending funding proposal
by proposal.
Senator Hoffman reiterated his concern that many projects are to reduce electrical costs and in rural
Alaska the highest costs are still in heating, which was discussed at the last two meetings and asked the
status of the “heating” topic. Mr. Crimp replied that as requested last time, in the last part of this meeting
we will lay out the allocations for heat versus power and suggested at our next meeting that Devany
Plentovich, AEA Biomass Manager, make a detailed presentation to the group. Mr. Posey commented to
Senator Hoffman that before his arrival, he asked if we would be willing to look at additional money for
this program, stating gasoline could be up to $5 or $10/gallon by 2012. A state effort was made on how
to treat the heating issue in rural Alaska, however, he said he is not in favor of creating another group just
to deal with heating, but is in favor of another $50M-$100M added to the program over the next three
years using the same process, staff, economics and experts to do it; suggesting another meeting next
month rather than in two months to deal with this issue, as Legislature needs to know what the
projections and possibilities are. Senator Hoffman said rural Alaska is already paying $5/gallon for fuel.
(Mr. Posey left the meeting for another appointment at 11:36 a.m.)
Mr. Crimp stated the regional summaries show actuals, not what was originally allocated. The Railbelt,
SE, Lower YK and NW Arctic are the four largest allocation areas. Senator Hoffman said he is
concerned, and has said many times, that legislation provisions state those areas of the state with the
highest energy costs are given the most credence, but in Rounds 1 through 4 the areas at the top of the
percentages are the Railbelt and SE and not the Bering Straits, Bristol Bay, etc. regions, stating that
legislative intent does not seem to be working.
Ms. Mitchell commented that, with all due respect, none of the SE areas pays 15 cents per kWh. Senator
Hoffman said Lime Village pays 115 cents per kwh and he understands there are communities in SE that
are not tied into the Railbelt and still have high costs as their primary source of heating is still oil, going
back to what we need to do regarding the areas of the state that have high oil costs and are heavily
dependent on oil for heating and what we can do to address those concerns. Ms. Mitchell agreed, but
said the chart draws a different picture than what it is and maybe it should be a different category called
rural SE. Senator Hoffman reiterated that legislative intent indicates areas of the state mentioned
previously would be at the top of the list and the railbelt areas would be at the bottom of the list. Chair
Beltrami agreed and said we have to try to answer the question for the number of projects being applied,
do we have enough projects to try to meet that percentage in those areas. Senator Hoffman said no.
Those areas of the state with the highest energy costs have the least capability of getting the paperwork
in. Those areas of the state such as the Railbelt have the personnel and manpower to submit those
applications. How can we mitigate that? The thrust of the program needs to be met. Chair Beltrami said
that’s the biggest challenge.
Mr. Reeve asked if there was a potential for somebody like AIDEA to provide a ready-made match for
projects that are having more difficulty putting projects together in the rural areas. They feel they don’t
have match resources and don’t have the ability to do it, but if it’s built in to a good economic equation
where it lowers their costs and they get the payback on the loan, couldn’t they set up with AIDEA that
there be pre-match dollars that could be available through a loan program to the YK area to look at
potential projects there, have somebody assist to say that a good biomass project looks good, or
whatever to lower some of heat costs could start to fly, but we need to start looking at other tools to make
our successes and also to answer some of the Senator’s questions about why we aren't getting enough
money out into those regions. If there are other tools that we can develop as a group here or make
recommendations for, we can get more applications going into the areas that have the highest costs.
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Mr. Harper said AEA is trying. We are not quite there, but agreed with Senator Hoffman that we need to
find another way. AEA has worked out scoring (10 points) very well and higher cost locations are scored
higher. He visited the Bethel region speaking before regional groups specifically about this program, and
we have been trying to urge the communities to get involved in the renewable energy process;
unfortunately there is not much interest or activity to generate applications from the area, certainly the
Bethel community is good at getting their applications in. For the outlying areas, we need help.
Senator Hoffman stated in the $360M EE program he instituted two programs through the Housing
Authority and not legislative, to allocate to regions with boundaries, they knew they would receive the
allocation so they applied and instituted. The distribution of those dollars throughout the state was much
fairer and equitable than how the RE Fund has been in getting dollars to the areas of the state with the
highest energy costs.
Mr. Crimp said in this round of recommended projects there are 20 wind feasibility projects. All the rural
area opportunities will be in heat recovery, wind generation — western Alaska and interior are the problem
areas. We are doing well in the biomass program. Many of the wind projects are 15-20 year paybacks
and are more marginal in terms of economics, but then when you look at them there’s not a whole lot else
other than heat recovery which is also in generation efficiency. What we might be able to do some type
of regional larger scale deployment technologies to speed things up. Senator Hoffman said the problem
with wind projects for some of the smaller areas is it makes a community more reliable on the wind, but
they have PCE so drastic reduction in rates aren’t seen, and because they're consuming less oil they're
buying a smaller amount and not getting the volume break. Their heating costs go up and their electricity
costs stay the same and the state saves money on PCE.
(Lunch break was taken from 11:45 a.m. to 12:20 p.m.)
Mr. Crimp introduced West High School students, Amber and Morgan Weimer. They are being mentored
by AEA as part of the gifted mentorship program and are interested in becoming engineers.
Mr. Crimp continued discussion on the ranking sheets. There are $36.5M in total grants for Rounds 1
through 4. There is an even split by population allocation on a regional basis. In the Round 4 $25M
allocation, he explained the geographic spread. The cumulative Rounds 1 through 4 Table, cost of power
was discussed. The average cost of power within the regions is weighted by population, based on the
2009 population count. He announced that AEA, in conjunction with ISER, is resuming publication of the
yearly energy power statistics, adding transportation and heating fuel in terms of consumption and price,
for all Alaska cities. Senator Hoffman asked if transportation costs would be spread. Mr. Crimp said we
will try to, but it’s more difficult to do as opposed to power.
Senator Hoffman again emphasized the problem of getting funding to those areas of the state with the
highest cost of power, and attributed it to the time pressure to get the funding out. He suggested a better
approach would be to allocate the funds by region and let those regions compete for the dollars and not
worry about the implementation period. For example, if one region gets their projects accomplished in
three to five years, and another region gets theirs accomplished in seven to 10 years, there’s no problem,
we wouldn't be trying to adjust after the fact, but to allocate the funds up front would be the most fair and
those regions would then compete.
Ms. Gustafson stated that since we are very near the final year of the original program, we need to think
about the future of the program and make recommendations and bring up ideas on the heating issue and
addressing projects to those communities with the highest cost of energy. Chair Beltrami agreed, stating
that is part of the REFAC role, and it would depend upon Legislature's wishes to continue or not continue
the program. Senator Hoffman said he pushed strongly for the AHFC Energy Efficiency Program. The
AHFC board met and they are coming up with additional request for funds this year when there's still
another $100M available. He felt the Legislature will favor the request. If the current program shows
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successes, there should be legislative support for an additional Round. He believes the savings will be
vastly more in the 10-year full implementation then the original program cost. Chair Beltrami stated it will
take time to see what the savings will be, and what will AEA do to monitor the outcome of the projects
and how quickly can it be reported (to the Legislature). There will be a gap in the program, how do we
keep it rolling. Mr. Crimp stated that the most important function that AEA will do is monitor the technical
and economic performance of the projects. We are currently devoting resources to that end. James
Jensen has taken the lead in our reporting system and we will work with UAF Alaska Center for Energy
and Power, to get a handle on the systemic issues in terms of performance of the wind diesel complex
issues. He pointed out it takes time for construction projects to come on line. Seven projects are done,
which we have statistics on. We can measure what we know that has happened, and we can estimate
future results by graphs. Chair Beltrami asked about the timeframe for legislative funding and was told it
was five years at $50M per year. Mr. Reeve agreed that we should look at adding on to the program, but
we need to act soon to request more funding and continuation of the program and not create something
new. There is justification for doing so. Ms. Gustafson suggested the REFAC could assist the
communities in the future with technical assistance (grant writers). Mr. Reeve said a key partnership has
developed over the years between AEA and the Denali Commission and there’s a lot of knowledge base
built into that organization. A lot of their processes are more adaptable and may be quicker to develop
the partnerships in rural areas. Perhaps we can discuss this with the Commission to make it a priority.
Chair. Beltrami said the Denali Commission energy advisory committee will meet February 3 and that will
be a topic.
Mr. Kendall said the RE Fund scope and scale is being underestimated. He said he was concerned
about the mindsets, i.e., in speaking about $4-$5 gallon for oil, is for gasoline probably. When you look at
energy converting to all electric, he calculates it comes out 10 to 17 times the normal use of electricity.
The oil companies are not informing the public about the huge role energy is. You have to be prepared to
go very large very quickly. Mr. Hoffman’s suggestion about regions is appropriate and looking at the 80
page application, cannot see how small business can operate under the grant conditions. Your very
basis of innovation is the individuals in the small communities. We need to be bigger than we are. One
of our biggest mistakes is we're not learning everybody up at the same time. All those villages have
relevant capacity to generate but it’s unique because circumstances change with the seasons and other
criteria. In 15 years we will see energy paradigms the likes we’ve never seen before. For the next 15
years you will see unparalleled chaos, not just high priced, but you will be lucky if you can get the energy.
Alaska is unique and we have the resources to do it now.
Senator Hoffman asked what type of reallocation we would be looking at if $36M or $50M was funded.
Whatever it is, the same process could be used without us reviewing it. Mr. Crimp pointed out that
$36.5M is the sum of all of the projects. Chair Beltrami said the REFAC would want to include all of the
recommended projects. Mr. Crimp discussed the subject of appeals, stating that Mr. Harper, acting AEA
Executive Director, has designated, along with himself, Sara Fisher-Goad, responder to the appeals
received, of which we have received two this round. Some of the projects not recommended were
discussed.
8. Status of current grants
Mr. White stated that the grant application contains 25 pages and not 80 pages as previously suggested.
We have disbursed $44.4M to date. For Rounds 1 and 2 all grants are in place, except for two from
Round 1 that have specific issues. He pointed out that the grantees are not spending the money, and
that is not any fault of AEA. Funding available for reallocation has increased due to schedule updates.
Reallocation will be done by Legislature.
Mr. Reeve said the reason projects like ours (Kotzebue Electric Association) aren’t spending grant funds;
this is one of those projects from Round | that was capped at $2M, KEA is waiting to get more of the
design completed, up to the 65% design. It’s not like funds aren’t being expended, we just aren’t
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charging to the grant yet. There may be another way to depict progress on these projects that have not
drawn grant funds yet to show where they currently stand. KEA is waiting for our clean renewable energy
bonds as an additional part of our match and to complete the design. As you know, down payments on
turbines and other costs are moving targets. This might possibly be something that would help entities
like us understand. If AIDEA could provide financing, if they had a pool of funds that could also be used
as a pre-funding for getting design completed for the smaller systems like ours. Making cash available for
these small systems would be the type of help we need. Mr. White agreed and said he would see if he
could work this progress into the table under funds obligation, to depict what's really committed.
Mr. Crimp said AEA is not entirely comfortable with the pace of a lot of the projects. We are starting to
send letters to grantees expressing our concern and giving them a drop dead date and asking for a
concrete schedule. Our project managers are working closely with them. Ms. Gustafson asked what we
heard back from the recipients as to why they haven’t sent paperwork. Mr. White said two had a
12/31/2010 drop dead date and neither bothered to respond. This is a recommendation program, we
can't reallocate funds. Senator Hoffman said he didn’t think it has to go back to Legislature, as long as
we fulfill the obligations of lowering energy costs in those areas of the state that have the highest costs, if
we initially went out and allocated by region and a region wasn’t performing and the region lowest on the
list would the funding. We really don’t have a way to address where those dollars would go under the
current system. In the next allocation process we need to look at a better system of allocating dollars to
those areas of the state with the highest energy costs. Areas of the state that are more organized can
react much quicker and get things accomplished. We shouldn’t be worried about the timeframe if we feel
that it’s going to get accomplished; some areas of the state may be able to get theirs done in four years,
where other areas may take 10 years. We need to keep our eye on the ultimate goal of reducing costs of
energy in those areas of the state that have the highest energy costs. We have to be responsible in the
way we administer the fund, because the Legislature is looking for the success of the program as well.
Mr. Crimp pointed out that these are not easy projects to build, they are very difficult and there are many
barriers. We need to keep this in mind.
Mr. Reeve asked Senator Hoffman if it would be worthwhile for the committee to go through the project
phases step by step so we can understand the process. Senator Hoffman said Representativel Thomas
can address that as well, but how we convince the Legislature that the program is working is a problem
and the best way to do that is to look at the annual fuel savings chart, which shows 83% power projects,
but the high cost of energy in rural Alaska is in heating. We can’t continue the way we’re going, somehow
the program needs to be modified. To sell the program, it's easy to show the fuel savings in the
communities and not get down into the intricacies of each project.
9. Charts/Reports Requested by REFAC - PCE Savings, Heating Projects, Projected Fuel
Displacement by Region
Mr. Crimp said at the last meeting the REFAC requested a breakdown of cumulative annual fuel savings.
They are shown two ways, by resource, around $7M gallons per year displacement, includes natural gas
per year after 2013. Additional projects are not counted which are faltering and will likely show more
displacement. Senator Hoffman said that showing gallons is impressive, but showing dollars would be
more impressive. Mr. Crimp said we could do that, we’d have to give a date, 2012 or something. The
second graph totals the same but is shown by region. Chair Beltrami said to get the support of the railbelt
legislators they need to see annual savings in fuel. Mr. Crimp said that in Round 4 Eva Creek Wind
Project, with a $2M allocation into final design and construction, will show many gallons to be added on.
Much of the funding has gone to power projects at 83% (mostly wind) - 13% heat and 4% heat and
power. Regarding estimate to impacts on the PCE, found it would be difficult to do and we will need a
more rigorous way to do that. He suggested our PCE department could take on the task; however, two
examples are Gustavus Falls Creek Hydro Project started up on 8/9 in FY10 hydro produced 90% of the
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energy. In FY09 the PCE payment to Gustavus was $306K and in FY10 was $101K and the price of oil
went down by 25%.
(Mr. Posey returned to the meeting at 1:10 p.m.)
Mr. Posey asked what the effect was of fuel switching from oil to electric due to the hydro power costs in
Gustavus. Mr. Lockard said after the hydro was completed, the residential rate dropped to 29 cents/kWh,
about $9/gallon equivalent for heating oil, however, the local utility is very interested in a creative rate
structure using energy spilled at the hydro. We have been sharing information about ways of putting in
an electric boiler that would provide cheaper heat for the school, and would also improve the operations
and capacity at the hydro facility because of better control frequency and increased capacity of the
generation system in dispatch mode. They are also working with the National Park Service on an intertie
to Bartlett Cove at Glacier Bay that would increase the load by 50%, and on possible time of day rates to
incentivize electric vehicles which matches better the extra energy available at the hydro to focus in
summer rather than winter.
Mr. Crimp said there’s been a lot of concern by Southeast Alaska Power Agency (SEAPA) power grid
about fuel switching using load increases, because the cost of power will be much lower in Gustavus. Mr.
Strandberg will be dealing with this in the SE IRP.
Mr. Posey suggested that before we encourage fuel switching, we need to do as much as we can in
conservation.
Mr. Kendall told Mr. Posey he took an average home of 8900 kWh and took an Enstar average annual
gas usage, 1,000 gallons of gasoline and converted all of those to electricity to BTU formulas, and came
up with 10 to 17 times the amount of electricity normally used and did he come up with the same figures.
Mr. Posey said he hadn't done the calculations.
With agenda items completed, Chair Beltrami opened up the meeting to questions.
Mr. Posey said it’s important that we look at the heating issue and not wait for an emergency. We need
to look at it now and let Legislature and Governor know that we think it’s important and it’s also important
to fund things like this. Senator Hoffman said we could look at the legislation to see if there’s any way that
this board can submit RFP’s for reducing energy costs in rural areas of the state and maybe we could
allocate some of the additional $14M for heating costs in those areas. Chair Beltrami said he’s
concerned we are recommending total projects of just $36M, as we're falling short of legislative allocation.
It's important that we add on to that in terms of a recommendation to address the heating issue.
Senator Hoffman said after we take a look at the legislation, we should see if there are industry solutions
for the next Round, instead of just specific people that are providing heat or electricity in a community.
Mr. Crimp questioned whether our regulations would allow us to do that. Senator Hoffman said he was
not worried about the regulations, but about the legislation.
Mr. Posey said we need to state that $14M shortfall isn’t a shortfall in need, but is a shortfall in the things
that we have set out and had come back to us. But there are the needs that we talked about for heating
and we need to look at those and take a look at why we have caps if the Legislature and Governor are
willing to fund it all the way or put some additional money in it. No one is doing as well as we are and we
shouldn't slow down.
Chair Beltrami said we have never been faced with this and we've not taken action other than
recommending the projects. Given the fact that there is a shortfall and that we do have a concern, we
need a recommendation forwarded with (and put this on the record) i.e., a one page letter that articulates
that to go along with the $36.5M recommendation.
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Mr. Posey said we need to take a look at the AHFC conservation effort because all the money's been put
in the pot for the same reasons and we need to be as good as AHFC in getting money out there
appropriately. We have a good number for legislators who are listening about how well this process is
working, once again because we're $14M short and because of our regulations and our operating
procedures, but not in needs to the state. Chair Beltrami suggested he put those thoughts in a letter to
circulate back to the Committee for comment. Mr. Crimp said as part of the package of
recommendations, AEA will produce a comprehensive status update with graphs, construction schedules,
and estimated draw down. Mr. Harper suggested that when (a Board) wishes to make a major policy
statement, typically a resolution is the best approach. Mr. Posey and Mr. Reeve will compile the
resolution.
Mr. Crimp stated we will meet with LB&A on January 14, 2011 and we will update our construction
schedule with due dates and send them to the Committee.
Mr. White announced that the RFA for Emerging Energy Technology Fund grants is out and completed
applications are due March 2, 2011. The Legislature appropriated $2.4M to the fund for FY2011. In
addition, the Denali Commission contributed $2.4M.
Mr. Crimp added that AEA released the RFA for commercial energy audits on January 5, 2011. Owners
of eligible public buildings (under 125K square feet) in Alaska may be reimbursed up to $6,500 for a
qualifying energy audit. Non-profit buildings are included. Completed applications are due February 15, 2011.
10. Next meeting date: March 1, 2011 in Juneau, AK.
aa5 Adjournment
The meeting was adjourned at 1:34 p.m.
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/= ALASKA ENERGY AUTHORITY
RENEWABLE ENERGY FUND ADVISORY COMMITTEE MEETING
Friday, January 7, 2011
AEA Boardroom
10:00 am to 4:00 pm
AGENDA
Call to Order Beltrami
Roll Call
Public Comments (limit of 2 minutes)
Agenda Comments (changes/additions/deletions)
Alaska State Energy Sector Partnership (ASESP)
Briefing by Department of Labor and Workforce Development Ore Not ee Approval of Meeting Minutes — November 9, 2010
Review AEA Round 4 Recommendations Crimp
Status of Current Grants White
Charts/Reports Requested by REFAC Crimp
a. PCE Savings
b. Heating Projects Ooo? c. Projected Fuel Displacement by Region
10.Next Meeting Date Beltrami
11. Adjournment Beltrami
Renewable Energy Fund Advisory Committee Meeting
November 9, 2010 — AEA Boardroom
1:00 pm to 4:00pm
DRAFT MINUTES
1. Call to Order
The Renewable Energy Fund Advisory Committee convened at 1:05 p.m. Chairman Vince Beltrami
presided over the meeting and stated he would be leaving the meeting at 2:00 pm. Ms. Hall will represent
him for the remainder of the meeting.
2. Roll Call:
Committee Members AEA Staff Other Participants
Chair Vince Beltrami Mike Harper Jodi Fondy, Denali Commission
Jodi Mitchell Sara Fisher-Goad Joelle Hall, AFLCIO
Sen. Lyman Hoffman (phone) James Strandberg Bob Baldwin, Kenai River Watershed Foundation
Brad Reeve Peter Crimp Wyn Menefee, ADNR Division of Water
Hannah Gustafson (for Mr. Rose) Butch White Mike Nave, Department of Law
Jim Posey (phone) Douglas Ott Rep. Paul Seaton/Homer (phone)
Emily Binnian Kaarle Strailey, AK. Center for the Environment (phone)
May Clark Pat Walker, Sen. Hoffman's Office (phone)
3. Public Comments
Kaarle Strailey, Alaska Center for the Environment, stated they are a local, non-profit environmental
education and advocacy organization whose mission is to enhance Alaskans’ quality of life by protecting
wild places, fostering sustainable communities and promoting recreational opportunities. ACE advocates
for sustainable policy on behalf of over 6,000 Alaskan members. Referencing Agenda Item 6A and
ACE's 8/23/2010 Valerie Connor letter to AEA regarding the REF evaluation guidelines, he reiterated
their main concerns were that levels of community and public support should carry a greater weight in the
grant application review process and more extensive environmental review impacts should be done
before awarding grants. He said he would remain on the line during the meeting to answer any questions.
4. Agenda Comments
There were no agenda comments.
5. Approval of Meeting Minutes — June 8 and August 13, 2010
The meeting minutes of June 8, 2010 were approved unanimously with minor typographical corrections.
MOTION: Ms. Mitchell moved to approve the meeting minutes from the June 8, 2010 Renewable
Energy Fund Advisory Committee. The motion was seconded by Mr. Reeve. The
minutes were unanimously approved as presented, with minor typographical errors to
be corrected.
The meeting minutes of August 13, 2010 were unanimously approved with minor typographical
corrections.
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MOTION: Ms. Mitchell moved to approve the meeting minutes from the August 13, 2010
Renewable Energy Fund Advisory Committee. The motion was seconded by Mr.
Reeve. The minutes were unanimously approved as presented, with minor
typographical errors to be corrected.
6. Round 4 Review Progress & Issues Needing REFAC Input
Mr. Crimp announced that the “GoTo Meeting” online session will not occur for this meeting as previously
planned. AEA received 108 proposals in mid-September and stage 1 review (eligibility and basic review)
was completed later that month. Two proposers dropped out. AEA hired five economic firms. ISER
updated fuel price projections, revised the economic analysis template, and both were posted on AEA’s
website. The economic firms are selected through a competitive process and ISER is coordinating the
review, providing assumptions for the economists and reviewing their work. To date they have delivered
approximately three fourths of the economic review. Under agreement with AEA, DNR Division of Mining
Land and Water, Division of Forestry, and Division of Geological and Geophysical Surveys (DGGS)
provided comments on resource availability and resource management considerations for the proposals.
All of that information was entered into our database. AEA has 10 staff involved in reviewing applications.
They are about one-fourth of the way complete and are making good progress with no problems.
Ms. Mitchell asked if there was a preliminary list of the Round 4 applicants available. Mr. Crimp said they
were posted on our website and he would provide the REFAC with the Excel version.
6a) Alaska Center for the Environment Issue
Mr. Crimp said Mr. Strailey of ACE summarized the concerns of the letter and noted the ACE reply was
the only one received in response to our request for public input when the RFAs were sent out.
Mr. Menefee reviewed the points brought up in the ACE letter. 1) ACE is concerned that the AEA project
review does not provide adequate environmental review nor does it provide significant evaluation of local
support. 2) ACE feels there is inappropriate weighting of environmental review on local support in the
ranking. 3) ACE feels there should be adequate funding of ADF&G, DNR and ADEC to supply
professional review of these projects. 4) ACE suggests we should not fund hydroelectric projects in the
Kenai River watershed. AEA has drafted a response letter and agreed to bring the discussion to the
REFAC. DNR provides basic environmental and social concern reviews of what is known during the
Stage 2 review. Although it is not as in depth as in permitting, it is a high level review to find out if there
are major concerns or major environmental hurdles in a project. AEA believes the ranking is appropriate
with criteria discussed at previous REFAC meetings. AEA believes it has provided both the appropriate
amount of weight for both the environmental review and the local support. Although there may be issues
identified by DNR and/or by the project review committee when they are looking at these projects, unless
there is an irreconcilable problem, the project still deserves consideration and ranking. There is an
assertion in the ACE letter that if there is any sort of environmental problem or concern then the project is
taken off the table. We believe there should be a consideration because the role of permitting is to go
through and find out if issues can be mitigated as they arise. A project may be scored and ranked lower
because of the issues that are raised. The permitting process provides in depth review of both
environmental and social concerns through a public process with a comment and appeal period. AEA
does not wish to make a duplicative or replacement permitting process and cannot afford the time or the
cost for a full environmental review / full permitting process before ranking. Part of the funding is the
feasibility to identify whether the project will work or not and that may mean going through the permitting
stage. Phasing required by project grants also prevents too much funding being allocated to a project
before knowing what the costs are. For instance, the State may invest in the feasibility assessment of a
project to determine whether it is likely the project is going to work or not. Funding will not be granted
thereafter if it is not going to work, so feasibility is an important stage when considering funding. The
resource agencies need to be funded to absorb the additional permitting workload, but AEA is providing
DNR enough funding for RE Fund application review. The resources agencies haven't received funding
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for actually doing the permitting review of the projects, but we agree with ACE that they should be funded
for that.
Ms. Mitchell agrees that we are doing what we can and has empathy for ACE, but said that’s not really
our purview.
Mr. Crimp stated when AEA scores the proposals, if there is a clear fatal flaw for a project and we know
the project will not be permitted, we have the option of recommending no funding.
Regarding the Kenai Hydro projects, Mr. Ott stated four applications were originally submitted in the
Moose Pass area that were funded for preliminary study and after the preliminary studies the applicant
ended up considering no further action on two of the sites. Two of the other sites were combined into a
single project moving forward. They later dropped one of the two sources they were combining, resulting
in the Grant Lake project.
Mr. Menefee commented on the ACE request that we not fund any hydro projects in the Kenai area; he
said we understand there are good and bad projects, but the newer hydro projects have gone through
more sensitive permitting with an increase in salmon habitat returning to those areas after the project. It
can be done well with appropriate permitting.
Mr. Crimp stated there are many feasibility and reconnaissance analyses funded and most of them may
not pan out. Under direction from the REFAC, AEA is allocating most funding towards construction. The
smaller allocation for reconnaissance and feasibility may provide useful results by identifying projects that
have problems and should not receive further funds.
In response to Mr. Reeve’s question as to why the sponsors withdrew on the projects mentioned above,
Mr. Ott said some reasons given were: less economic benefits involved with two of the projects,
significant fish habitat issues involved, and local opposition concerns.
Mr. Crimp stated AEA will respond to the ACE letter consistent to what was discussed.
Mr. Reeve asked if everyone received a letter from Becky Long regarding concerns on funding biomass in
the Mat-Su Borough. He gave the letter to staff to be placed on the next meeting agenda.
Mr. Ott said at a meeting today on a hydropower project, DNR announced there was going to be a new
fee schedule established to charge projects for the state permitting services.
6b) How to address letters from Legislators in local support score
Mr. Crimp stated letters from Legislators were received in support of projects that will figure into the
project scoring so REFAC direction is needed on this. Mr. White said a resolution received from a board,
etc. for local support is given two points. An entity letter of support is given up to 3 more points. Up to
five points are given for local support and the points are not cumulative. In Round 4, five projects (3
Peninsula, 1 Juneau, 1 Sitka) were received with letters of support from a local Legislator, so the
approach was taken that a Legislator was counted as an entity. REFAC direction was asked on this
matter. Mr. Reeve stated we like to see local support from the communities. Senator Hoffman said
Legislators should not be counted as an entity and this was agreed to by the committee.
6c) How to address consistency with Energy Pathway in scoring
Mr. Crimp stated the REFAC had previously decided to favorably score the projects that were consistent
with the Energy Pathway. A proposal was received for reconnaissance feasibility biomass development
and exactly corresponded to the Pathway. In the existing evaluation guidelines there is nothing to provide
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a higher score for that, so he wanted to bring up the possibility for modifying the project readiness score
to benefit reconnaissance projects that are consistent with the Pathway.
(A ten minute break was taken and the gavel was turned over to Mr. Reeve)
The entire evaluation guidelines dated January 21, 2010 were provided to the committee and reviewed.
An additional criterion would be added under Project Readiness to the effect that, if an applicant is
proposing reconnaissance work consistent with the Energy Pathway, this condition would warrant a score
of 4 points. Other Readiness criteria would remain the same and a maximum of 10 points would be given
for Readiness. Mr. Reeve stated the Pathway is tying into existing State energy planning and has had
local review by the communities to find an energy pathway that makes sense for them and will bring
community involvement back into the process. Senator Hoffman stressed regional balance needs to be
addressed again and shown in the allocation. Mr. Crimp stated the Stage 4 review on statewide regional
ranking (on Page 8 of the guidelines) will still be followed for geographic balance and nothing will be
changed from the protocols established previously.
Another REFAC meeting will be held in early January to discuss the results of the scoring before
Legislative session begins on January 18". Ms. Mitchell said the AFN passed a resolution supporting the
Energy Pathway.
7. Round 1-3 Construction Project Schedule Review
The handouts for the meeting were distributed. Mr. Crimp said we have seen a bit of slippage for some
projects; however, most are progressing and the published construction schedule is our best estimate.
The projects are generally on track but a few will not be completed until next year. The Juneau
geothermal aquatic center won't occur until late winter. The heat pump project at the Sealife Center will
occur next year. A few are not yet determined. Ft. Yukon district wood heat project needs organization.
80 percent of funding has gone into construction in the amount of $118.3 M. Much of the reconnaissance
and feasibility of $18.4 M is for geothermal assessment data collection and physical activity. Estimated
cumulative annual fuel savings for Rounds 1 through 3 were reviewed and the chart showed for projects
that are constructed. AEA assumes fuel savings (in million gallons) are realized the calendar year after
project completion. 10 million gallons of fuel per year are displaced by the projects following completion.
The biomass fuel savings jumps in 2012 due to the Anchorage Landfill gas project being completed. Mr.
Posey asked if negotiations were completed on the project. Mr. Crimp stated the Municipality came to
AEA with a contractor, Doyon, that had proposed to make power in reciprocating generators and
purchase landfill gas from the Muni (they will pay the Muni). AEA believes it is an excellent project that
brings good benefit to the Municipality and they are proceeding. Senator Hoffman said the chart was
excellent, but needs to be looked at from a regional standpoint as well, emphasizing rural Alaska. Mr.
Crimp said a regional breakdown will be made and provided at the next meeting. Senator Hoffman said
we need to look at how this program can assist in reducing costs with alternative energy for heating
homes. Mr. Crimp said a similar chart can be prepared showing heating vs. electrical fuel displacement,
and that the heat recovery and biomass projects are generally where we are seeing the heating fuel
displacement in wood and heat recovery. He mentioned that perhaps Devany Plentovich, AEA’s Biomass
& Heat Recovery Program Manager could address the committee on program strategy, as there’s a lot
going on in program development. Mr. Posey wanted to know how much funds were for heat recovery
and biomass and a chart would be helpful showing those. Mr. Crimp said those figures can be prepared.
Ms. Mitchell commented that the graphs are useful to defend the program, but would like to see PCE
savings shown. Mr. Crimp agreed.
8. Update on Existing Grant progress
Mr. White referred to the handouts and said in Round 1, 78 projects were selected and all but four are in
place due to grantee issues. In Round 2, all projects are in place. In Round 3, we are halfway through
and are making progress in getting the grants in place. The money is being disbursed, and finance’s goal
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is a two-week turnaround. Some projects were given up for various reasons, including meeting all of the
requirements and everything is on track, although the money may not be moving out as fast as some
would like. Mr. Reeve agreed these projects take time and must be done right and the Committee needs
to remind folks of what it takes to make successful projects. Ms. Gustafson asked what the reallocation
procedure is for the $2 M accumulated from all of the rounds. Ms. Fisher-Goad stated the LB&A had
directed AEA in Round 1 to have the money go to Takatz Lake and that project is nearly fully funded.
Funds left over from canceled projects are reported to the OMB and Legislature. In Round 4 there is
recommended funding of $50 M, but there is money in the fund for projects not moving forward. We
cannot divert unallocated funds to a project. Mr. Crimp said AEA realizes some projects are not
progressing and we will need to take action to have those funds returned and reallocated. Ms. Fisher-
Goad corrected by saying we are not going to be seeking money back, we never gave them the money.
There are two types of projects: ones where grants are issued, which we can move to cancel the grant if
they are not making progress; and grants not in place which are easier to de-fund — money is obligated,
but the grant is not in place. In Round 4 we stated in the RFA’s that if a grant is not in place in a year, it is
presumed that we will reallocate the money — that was not explained in the earlier rounds. AEA desires
to give the grantee the benefit of the doubt in these situations. Reallocation was discussed internally and
the difficulty is that projects become stale and to reevaluate an old project would not work. So the most
appropriate way to do it is to put the money forward to current projects. Our goal is to have the
appropriations people understand what's available. In Round 2 there weren't enough projects for AEA to
recommend more than $36.8 M. The REFAC needs to think about how this will work.
9. Frequency of progress reporting
Mr. Reeve pointed out that, for example, the NWAB is spending a lot of time on the monthly reports, but
aren't at a point where the project has progressed at all. AEA needs to decide if they want to do quarterly
or monthly reporting. Quarterly is typical, but AEA staff desires adequate control for the amount of money
going out. The REFAC needs to look at different reporting triggers, especially for the smaller
communities with minimal staff. Mr. Crimp said it was just the construction projects where money can be
flying out the door very quickly — a big concern for AEA is that even though it is on a reimbursement
basis, once somebody has bought something, the decision has been made and if AEA finds the grantee
has not fulfilled a milestone, it is a problem.
Mr. Strandberg stated a monthly report or email stating there’s been no activity is helpful to keep things
under control as there’s more projects than project managers. We need to know what's going on, but we
also do not want a detailed and rigorous reporting process for projects with no activity. Usually the
grantee makes the expenditure then seeks reimbursement, AEA makes sure it is within the scope of work
for the project. We have the responsibility to make sure we have successful projects. There is that
rational middle ground in having the grantee report to and keep in touch with us so we can keep our
fingers on what is happening. We need to know there is no monthly activity.
Mr. Crimp said a project trigger could be final design and permitting. A monthly report is not going to be
necessary if there is not much money being spent. Before the REF, we required monthly reporting for
construction projects. Mr. Reeve said the trigger idea could be based on milestones on large
reimbursements, etc. to keep reporting down.
Mr. Strandberg said on the larger more complex projects we are requiring a schedule of values and
monthly reporting on each component’s percent complete link to the requested reimbursement so we can
track the amount of money being spent is equivalent to the percent complete. If there is no activity or the
level of activity is small we might be able to trigger into a lesser reporting requirement by email. Mr.
Reeve agreed and stated the smaller projects need to have more meaningful reporting — quarterly or
based on a trigger. Mr. Posey felt quarterly would work and incremented grant percentages could also
trigger another report. Mr. Crimp said that would be good for some grantees but not for others. He said
he would discuss this with the project managers and will look at making sure we are only requesting
reporting to minimize the amount of paperwork. Ms. Mitchell said for larger purchases or large contracts
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in the Rural Utilities Service (RUS) program, they give finance an estimate of what will be spent for the
month, and have always come under cost. Mr. Strandberg said AEA has been flexible for equipment
purchases; either an advance is made or an arrangement is made on a purchase order so that the bill is
sent directly to AEA. Although AEA doesn't necessarily like to pay bills directly, there are ways to do it.
Mr. White agreed that we will work with grantees and some have reported by email that there is no activity
for a period and the PM's are fine with that. Mr. Reeve said we can come back and respond to Mr.
Posey’s questions, to see if there’ are ways to get meaningful reports to give you the tracking ability you
are looking for to make it as easy on the grantees as possible. We've already judged their projects in a
sense and said they are capable of doing this and trust them to do it right. We could report on this for the
January meeting.
10. Performance driven / Strategic grant making
Mr. Crimp had nothing to report. He said Chris Rose suggested having staff come up with proposals or
some ideas for performance driven grants. We haven't had enough time to do that. AEA alternative
energy and energy efficiency staff are preparing program plans that show our overall goals and objectives
and how we would approach hydrokinetic wind, geothermal projects, etc. After the proposal review
process is completed in January, it might be a good time to consider program strategy. Heating projects
need to be discussed further. Mr. Reeve agreed and noted that in many of the villages, heating expenses
are often more expensive than electrical. Mr. Posey asked staff if we expect another $40 M or $50 M in
Legislative funding and we need to look at what the next two or three years looks like if so. Also, are we getting projects that fall within the 80/20 Legislative mandate split. We should consider caps coming off if
there are viable projects that could make a meaningful difference in the Railbelt.
Mr. Crimp said at the next meeting we will have a better idea of the quality of proposals and the amount
of construction funding to go out. Then the possibility of increasing the caps could also be discussed.
Tasks as a result of this meeting: 1) Geographical report to see how grants stand regionally; 2) Report
on electrical versus heating grants; 3) Discuss options for reducing reporting requirements with AEA
project managers; 4) Report on how grants are impacting the PCE Program; 5) Respond to Becky Long
letter regarding funding biomass in Mat-Su; 6) distribute list of Round IV applications to REFAC; 7)
Review Round IV grants at the next meeting; 8) Look at the performance driven/strategic grant making
topic at a later date; 9) Respond to ACE letter; 10) Look at community “pooling” — see if we can pool
communities together to combine them with expertise to get them to apply for grants at lower costs; and
11) Future legislative funding and capping of projects.
11. Next meeting date: January 7, 2011.
12. Adjournment
The meeting was adjourned at 3:00 p.m.
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Alaska Energy Authority Renewable Energy Fund Round IV - Applications
App # Project_Name
600 AVCP Regional Housing Authority
601 Waste Energy Powered Absorption Refrigeration Unit
602 Adak Renewable Diesel Project
603 Takatz Lake Hydroelectric Feasibility Analysis
604 Bethel Renewable Energy Project
605 Biomass Fuel Dryer Project
606 Jack River Hydro Project
607 Lime Village Photovoltaic System Retrofit
608 Renewable Energy Feasibility Study
609 Atqasuk Transmission Line
610 Kaktovik Wind Diesel
611 Point Hope Wind Turbine Design
612 Point Lay Wind Generation Design
613 Wainwright Wind Turbine Design
614 NWAB School Alternate Energy Solar Awareness Project
615 CEA Transmission Line to Renewable Energy Resources
616 GVEA Eva Creek Wind Turbine Purchase
617 Tok School Biomass Heating Project
618 CVEA Silver Lake Feasibility
619 Port St. Nick Fish Enhancement Hydropower
620 Whitman Lake Project
621 Akutan Geothermal Development Project
622 Cordova Community Biomass Feasibility Study
623 Susitna Valley High School Wood Heat
624 Wrangell Electric Vehicle Feasibility Study
625 Excursion Inlet Hydro Project Phases | and II
626 Carlson Creek Hydroelectric Project
627 Connelly Lake Hydroelectric Project
628 Neck Lake Hydroelectric Project
629 Reynolds Creek Hydroelectric Project Transmission Line
630 Schubee Lake Hydroelectric Project
631 Yerrick Creek Hydroelectric Project
632 Reconnaissance Study of Tenakee Inlet Geothermal Resource
633 Nushagak Community Wind Power Project
634 Nikiski Combined Cycle Conversion (NCCC)
635 Grant Lake Hydroelectric Facility
636 Thorne Bay School Wood Fired Boiler Project
637 Feasibility Assessments for Wood Heating in Interior AK Communities
638 Yukon River Debris Mitigation Project
639 Eek Wind Feasibility
January 03, 2011
Applicant_Name
AVCP Regional Housing Authority
Valdez Fisheries Development Assn., Inc.
TDX Adak Generating, LLC
City & Borough of Sitka
TDX Power, Inc.
City of Craig, Alaska
Native Village of Cantwell
Lime Village Traditional Council
Louden Tribal Council
North Slope Borough
North Slope Borough
North Slope Borough
North Slope Borough
North Slope Borough
Northwest Arctic Borough
Chugach Electric Association, Inc.
Golden Valley Electric Association
Alaska Gateway School District
Copper Valley Electric Association, Inc.
City of Coffman Cove
City of Ketchikan dba Ketchikan Public Utilities
City of Akutan
Native Village of Eyak
Matanuska Susitna Borough
City & Borough of Wrangell
Haines Borough
Alaska Power Company
Alaska Power Company
Alaska Power Company
Alaska Power Company
Alaska Power Company
Alaska Power Company
Inside Passage Electric Cooperative
Nushagak Electric & Telephone Cooperative (NETC)
Alaska Electric & Energy Cooperative
Kenai Hydro LLC
Southeast Island School District
Interior Regional Housing Authority
Alaska Power & Telephone Company
Alaska Village Electric Cooperative, Inc. VUUUUYNUH YUH VUYUUNHUYNHHYH HUN YUH U UNH YUH UHHUNUHYHHNUYHUUY Grant_Fund_Request
3,045,000
1,021,287
250,050
2,000,000
3,961,638
350,000
190,000
69,000
100,000
210,000
132,000
400,000
400,000
400,000
137,209
1,700,000
1,463,200
754,651
637,500
158,400
2,000,000
2,695,000
245,065
750,000
112,500
317,130
540,000
1,040,000
1,844,000
2,000,000
160,000
4,000,000
2,579,200
3,199,400
2,000,000
1,500,000
300,000
154,477
1,190,876
142,500
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Wind
Other
Wind
Hydro
Wind
Biomass
Hydro
Solar
Biomass
Other
Wind
Wind
Wind
Wind
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Transmission
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Hydro
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Biomass
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Hydro
Hydro
Hydro
Hydro
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Hydro
Hydro
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Wind
Heat Recovery
Hydro
Biomass
Biomass
Other
Wind
Alaska Energy Authority Renewable Energy Fund Round IV - Applications
App # Project_Name
640 Elim Wind Feasibilityi
641 Kaltag Solar Construction
642 Koyuk Wind Phase II Feasibility
643 Marshall Wind Feasibility
644 Old Harbor Hydroelectric
645 St. Mary’s/Pitka’s Point Wind Construction
646 Scammon Bay Wind Feasibility
647 Selawik Hybrid Wind Diesel System Turbine Upgrade
648 Stebbins Wind Feasibility
649 Kenny Lake School Wood Fired Boiler
650 Chefornak Wind Feasibilitly
651 Southwest Alaska Regional Geothermal Energy Project
652 Mount Spurr Geothermal Project
653 Terror Lake Unit 3 Hydroelectric Project
654 Pilgrim Hot Springs Geothermal Resource Assessment
655 Triangle Lake Hydroelectric Project
656 Metlakatla-Ketchikan Intertie
657 AVTEC Hydro Training Facility
658 Organic Rankine Cycle Field Testing
659 Kachemak Bay Tidal Power
660 Cook Inlet TidGen Project
661 Turnagain Arm Tidal Electrical Generation Project
662 Gulkana Village Pellet Fuels Project
663 lonia Renewable Energy Training Center
664 Kwethluk Wind Feasibility
665 Upper Tanana Biomass CHP Project
666 Kenai Winds Expansion
667 Kotzebue Paper & Wood Waste to Energy
668 Upper Kobuk River Biomass
669 Akiachak Wind Feasibility & Conceptual Design
670 Thayer Lake Hydropower Development Generation
671 Thayer Lake Hydropower Development, Transmission
672 Snettisham Transmission Line Avalanche Mitigation
673 Atmautluak Wind Renewable Energy
674 Stetson Creek Diversion/Cooper Lake Dam Facilities
675 Battle Creek Diversion Project
676 Eska Creek Hydroelectric Project
677 Akiak Hydro Study
678 False Pass Wind Energy Project
679 Nelson Lagoon Wind Energy Project
January 03, 2011
Applicant_Name
Alaska Village Electric Cooperative, Inc.
Alaska Village Electric Cooperative, Inc.
Alaska Village Electric Cooperative, Inc.
Alaska Village Electric Cooperative, Inc.
Alaska Village Electric Cooperative, Inc.
Alaska Village Electric Cooperative
Alaska Village Electric Cooperative, Inc.
Alaska Village Electric Cooperative, Inc.
Alaska Village Electric Cooperative, Inc.
Copper River School District
City of Chefornak
Naknek Electric Association, Inc.
Ormat Nevada, Inc.
Kodiak Electric Association, Inc.
University of Alaska Fairbanks INE/ACEP
Metlakatla Indian Community
Metlakatla Indian Community
Alaska Vocational Technical Center
University of Alaska Fairbanks ACEP
City of Homer
ORPC Alaska, LLC
Turnagain Tidal Energy Corporation
Gulkana Village Council
Alaska Mental Health Trust Authority
Organized Village of Kwethluk
Alaska Power & Telephone Company
Kenai Winds LLC
City of Kotzebue
Northwest Inupiat Housing Authority
Akiachak Native Community/Akiachak Ltd.
Kootznoowoo, Inc.
Kootznoowoo, Inc.
Alaska Electric Light & Power Company
Village of Atmautluak
Chugach Electric Association, Inc.
Chugach Electric Association, Inc.
Bering Pacific Engineering
City of Akiak
City of False Pass Electric Utility
Nelson Lagoon Electrical Cooperative VPUUNUYNHUYHUYHUNHHYHHHUDHHHH HUYNH VNU HUUNHUUNUUUNUY Grant_Fund_Request
142,500
90,000
142,500
111,150
237,500
4,000,000
142,500
85,000
137,750
565,485
250,000
4,000,000
1,999,972
7,000,000
1,330,467
500,000
9,405,200
703,800
472,787
620,811
2,000,000
2,000,000
955,000
241,623
145,000
380,000
2,000,000
85,000
250,000
110,000
4,000,000
4,000,000
3,215,680
225,000
2,000,000
500,000
37,000
350,000
128,625
158,625
Resource
Wind
Solar
Wind
Wind
Hydro
Wind
Wind
Wind
Wind
Biomass
Wind
Geothermal
Geothermal
Hydro.
Geothermal
Hydro
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Hydro
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Other
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Other
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Biomass
Wind
Biomass
Wind
Other
Biomass
Wind
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Hydro
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Wind
Hydro
Hydro
Hydro
Ocean/River
Wind
Wind
Alaska Energy Authority Renewable Energy Fund Round IV - Applications
App # Project_Name
680 Cold Bay Wind Energy Project
681 Lake & Peninsula Wood Boilers
682 Fivemile Creek Hydroelectric Project
683 Cook Inlet Tidal Hydrokinetic Power Generation
684 New Koliganek Wind & Heat Recovery Feasibility Study
685 Napaskiak Wind, Power and Heat Recovery
686 Port Heiden Wind Turbine Project
687 Hoonah Heat Recovery Project
688 Pelican Hydroelectric Upgrade Project
689 Port Graham Biomass Waste Heat Demo Project
690 Hunter Creek Hydroelectric Project
691 Glacier Fork Hydroelectric Project
692 Elfin Cove Hydroelectric Project
693 Fourth of July Creek Hydroelectric Project
694 Southern Railbelt Small Hydro Reconn. Study
695 Indian River Hydroelectric Project
696 Merrill Field Landfill Gas Heating/Energy Project
697 Napakiak Wind Design & Construction Planning
698 Kongiganak Flywheel Energy Storage
699 Akiak Integrated Renewable Energy Projects
700 High Penetration Wind Diesel Power and Heat
701 Palmer Ice Arena Geothermal & Heat Recovery Improvements
702 Packers Creek Hydroelectric Project
703 Tuntutuliak Wind Energy Storage
704 Kwigillingok Wind Energy Storage
705 Japonski Island Boathouse Heat Pump
706 Sitka Renewable Energy Feasibility for Wastewater Treatment Plant
707 Sitka Renewable Energy Feasibility for Centennial Hall & Library
January 03, 2011
Applicant_Name
G&K Electric Utility
Lake & Peninsula Borough
Chitina Electric, Inc.
Baker Hughes, Inc.
New Koliganek Village Council
City of Napaskiak Electric Utility
Lake & Peninsula Borough
Inside Passage Electric Cooperative, Inc.
City of Pelican
Port Graham Village Council
Eklutna, Inc.
Glacier Fork Hydro, LLC
Community of Elfin Cove Utility Commission
Independence Power, LLC
Polarconsult Alaska, Inc.
City of Tenakee Springs Electric Department
Municipality of Anchorage
Napakiak Ircinraq Power Company
Puvurnag Power Company
City of Akiak
Kipnuk Light Plant
City of Palmer
Chignik Lagoon Power Utility
Tuntutuliak Community Services Assn., Inc.
Kwig Power Company
City and Borough of Sitka
City and Borough of Sitka
City and Borough of Sitka UUUNNUUUUYNUNUUUNHH YUNUNUNUUNUNYHYHUNYHUNUY wn Grant_Fund_Request
158,625
369,900
3,602,000
400,000
105,050
17415275)
1,700,000
475,000
1,896,836
697,475
84,000
210,000
347,000
136,500
1,375,000
203,000
2,000,000
282,395
1,395,231
142,000
3,424,041
1,094,695
2,440,000
708,162
708,162
125,000
20,000
30,000
123,170,405
Resource
Wind
Biomass
Hydro
Other
Wind
Wind
Wind
Heat Recovery
Hydro
Biomass
Hydro
Hydro
Hydro
Hydro
Hydro
Hydro
Other
Wind
Other
Other
Wind
Geothermal
Hydro
Other
Other
Geothermal
Geothermal
Geothermal
Ke oe pe “ZIDEN. j= wx OK Alaska Industrial Development aA Export Authority
November 19, 2010
Valerie Connor
Conservation Director
Alaska Center for the Environment
807 G Street, Suite 100
Anchorage, AK 99501
Dear Ms. Connor,
Thank you for your August 23, 2010 letter regarding the Renewable Energy Fund project
evaluation guidelines. We appreciate the Alaska Center for the Environment’s support for
increased development of renewable energy projects in Alaska.
You expressed concern that the project evaluation guidelines do not adequately consider local
support or environmental considerations. As you are aware, your concerns were discussed at
the recent advisory committee meeting for the Renewable Energy Fund. This is to respond
directly to your letter now that the committee has met.
We believe that Alaska Energy Authority (AEA) provides sufficient review appropriate to the
stage of the project proposed. As part of project technical review, the Department of Natural
Resources provides a certain level of review to identify obvious hurdles with obtaining permits
for environmental or social reasons. Unless a project has a clearly irreconcilable problem, it is
inappropriate to prevent consideration for funding without a thorough review by appropriate
agencies and the public. That in-depth process will occur during the permitting phase by the
resource agencies. For projects that are requesting feasibility analysis, the grant funding
provides project developers an opportunity to identify challenges and try to work through any
hurdles. Note that permitting risk is a criterion for technical feasibility scoring.
It is appropriate to allow projects full review under the existing permitting review processes
prescribed by law, and not to duplicate that work in the Renewable Energy Fund program.
During those permitting reviews, issues may arise and if they can be mitigated, the project
could continue, but if not, it may require a change to the project or abandonment of the
project. Permitting reviews also provide public review and opportunities for the public to
appeal the decisions if they disagree. The resource agencies try not to prejudge the outcome of
a permitting process before the permitting process begins.
813 West Northern Lights Boulevard * Anchorage, Alaska 99503
www.aidea.org * 907/771-3000 * FAX 907/771-3044 ® Toll Free (Alaska Only) 888/300-8534 * www.akenergyauthority.org
Ms. Valerie Connor
November 19, 2010
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AEA does not have the funding nor the time available to conduct as thorough of an
environmental review or public comment survey as ACE suggested. The evaluation of the
public support is based on the information provided by the applicant and knowledge of the
review team. Additionally, AEA has received letters in support or against projects once the
proposed projects were posted on the website.
You stress that it is important that the ADF&G, ADNR and ADEC be funded at levels that will
fully support professional review of renewable energy project proposals. We agree that there
should be adequate funding as these projects will require appropriate public and environmental
review during the permitting stage at the resource agencies. The additional influx of projects
puts further demand on existing staff.
Project funding is provided in successive phases—reconnaissance, feasibility/conceptual design,
final design/permitting, and construction. In order to allocate funding as effectively as possible,
each phase of work must be completed before AEA makes additional funding available.
The evaluation methods that AEA utilizes to consider environmental risks or public support was
agreed upon by the Renewable Energy Fund Advisory Committee, which is made up of
representatives of the power industry, renewable energy advocates, and legislators. This
process was later placed in regulation through a public process.
We believe that the review is weighted appropriately and that the environmental and social
concerns are adequately addressed as projects proceed to permitting.
Thank you for your comments. If you have any further questions or comments please feel free
to contact me.
Sincerely,
ALASKA) ENERGY/AUTHORITY
Peter Crimp
Deputy Director
Alternative Energy and Energy Efficiency
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10/12/10
To: | Members of the Renewable Energy Fund Advisory Committee of the State of
Alaska
From: Becky Long, PO Box 1088, Talkeetna AK 99676, issues320@hotmail.com
Re: CONCERNS OF NORTHERN SUSITNA VALLEY RESIDENTS
PROJECT NO. 623 SUSITNA VALLEY HIGH SCHOOL WOOD HEAT
This project has been submitted by the Matanuska Susitna Borough in application for
funds under Round IV of the Renewable Energy Fund.
Contrary to media reports, there is not a groundswell of public support in the Northern
Susitna Valley for this project.
1. There are many people who question the value of cutting old growth forests for
cordwood for an industrial boiler and who are worried about the precedent that
this could set.
2. There are fiscal public policy concerns about the economics of this project. This
project does not pencil out economically unless an entity subsidizes it. We know this
from the September 2009 Northern Economic/Dalson Energy, Inc. report “Susitna
Valley High School: Wood Heat analysis that states, “Financial analysis indicates
high initial system costs must be met by grants and supplemental or
demonstration funds. Without such funding, wood fired system costs
exceed the costs of current (fuel oil) system.”
2. Many residents question whether industrial biomass projects can be considered
Renewable Energy.
Biomass energy is being touted as carbon neutral because the carbon emissions from
burning biomass are considered part of a natural cycle in which growing forests over
time recapture the amount of carbon that was emitted. However, it is not as simple as
that.
According to the June 2010 study “Biomass Sustainability and Carbon Policy Study”
commissioned by the state of Massachusetts, beginning in the 1990's researchers
conducted studies showing more complex understanding of the carbon cycle
implications of biomass combustion and atmospheric greenhouse gas implications. It
will vary depending on the characteristics of the bioenergy combustion technology, the
fossil fuel technology it replaces and the biophysical and forest management
characteristics of the forests harvested. Assumptions of biomass carbon neutrality have
been challenged on the ground that such a characterization ignores the differences in
the timing of the carbon releases and subsequent resequestration in growing forests.
There is also evidence from studies that older forests sequester more carbon than
younger forests. We need to know when the carbon emissions from the proposed
Susitna Valley High School Wood Boiler equal the same amount of carbon sequestered
from the growing forests in the Matanuska Susitna Borough that would be cut for the
1
boiler. According to the September 22, 2010 Matanuska Susitna Borough Natural
Resource Management Plan that was passed, the borough forests are being managed
for the standard rotation period of 100 years for white spruce and 80 years for paper
birch. Is there data on the carbon cycle for the timber harvest area?
3. There are also public health concerns. What are the emissions from this
proposed boiler, and how will that affect the air quality of the Susitna River
lowlands where the Su Valley High School is located? It is known that forest
biomass energy generally emits more greenhouse gases than fossil fuels per unit
of energy. Even with the best pollution control devices, biomass burning
releases as much particulates as coal burning.
A 11/15/07 paper entitled Air Quality and Wood Fired Heating Devices by the Director
of the Division of Air Quality, Alaska Department of Environmental Conservation stated
the following:
1. The ADEC Permitting and Emission Rules did not envision broad use of
commercial wood boilers.
2. The expansive use of wood fuels deserves a strong look at combustion design,
pollution control technology and attention to good site selection.
3. Health consequences are real: switching from diesel to wood may save money,
but health costs may exceed fuel savings.
THERE NEEDS TO BE A FULL DISCUSSION OF THE ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACTS
OF BIOMASS INDUSTRIAL BURNING.
4. There needs to be clarification as to the process whereby borough public forests
are cut for this project. The Matanuska Susitna Borough has said that there is a
dedicated borough forest base for cordwood for this project. But it is my
understanding that the timber harvests will have to go through the regularly
established borough procedure of nominating timber land for harvest to be put on
the Five Year Schedule.
fi oe ing
May Clark
From: Peter Crimp
Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2010 11:40 AM
To: May Clark
Subject: RE: Becky Long letter
Let’s hold off until we send them the minutes. In the meantime please send a copy to Butch, Devany and me.
Thx, Peter
From: May Clark
Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2010 9:44 AM
To: Peter Crimp
Subject: Becky Long letter
Do we want to send out her letter to the REFAC today?
Thanks, May Clark
Administrative Assistant
Alaska Energy Authority
813 W. Northern Lights Blvd.
Anchorage, AK 99503
mclark@aidea.org
907-771-3074