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AEA Susitna-Watana BOC Meeting #1 in Bellevue, WA (November 1-2, 2012) - Comment and Response Log
Item
No.
BOC
Document
& Date
Page or
Sheet #
Technical
Category
Comment Response Response
by and
Date
Status Notes
1 BOC MTG-1
Final
Report,
Nov. 9,
2012
2 of 8 Hydrology &
Meteorology
Probable Maximum Precipitation (PMP)
1) Transposability. What techniques will be used for horizontal transpositioning of selected storms? How will
observed precipitation values be modified in the process? What are the linear limits of transposability (i.e., how
far away from the target area could a storm be and still be transposable)?
Covered in Board Meeting 2A. AWA will follow HMR, WMO, and our standard procedures for
quantifying transposition factor of the final short list of storms used to derive PMP. This includes
using the updated 2-sigma SST climatology to determine the ratio of precipitable water (PW) at
the in-place storm location vs. the transposition location within the basin. This will be done on the
gridded basis, i.e. each grid cell will have this calculated individually. Observed precipitation values
will be modified based on the combination of the in-place maximization factor, the horizontal
transposition factor, and the orographic transposition factor. The linear multiplication of these
three factors will results in the total adjustment factor for each individual storm at each grid cell.
The transpositionability limits of the storms is TBD and will be a function of the storm type, the
individual characteristics of each short list storm (which has yet to be developed) and the
meteorological analysis and judgment of AWA in conjunction with discussions with the BoC. It is
assumed that because all storms considered for this study will have occurred within or upwind of
the basin to the coastline, transposition limits should be fairly straightforward. We will not be
transpositioning storms from the interior of Alaska across major mountains ranges, such as the
Alaska Range or St Elias Range. In addition, AWA will generally follow the HMR and WMO
guidelines of limiting transpositioning of storms to less than 6° of latitude, as moving beyond these
bounds could potentially change the storm dynamic structure of a given storm event.
AWA
5/13/13
Response Tentatively
Accepted. BOC will
review future work and
will comment if needed.
"Response" Statement
subject to BOC Concurrence.
2 BOC MTG-1
Final
Report,
Nov. 9,
2012
2 of 8 Hydrology &
Meteorology
2) Maximization. Will moisture maximization be done exclusively with sea surface temperature analysis or will
other techniques be used as well? Will there be any verification of the SST-based maximization (e.g., surface
dew point analyses)?
It is anticipated that all storms will be maximized using SSTs unless a storm event being analyzed
DID NOT have rainfall at several of the upwind weather stations (i.e Talkeetna, Anchorage, Kenai,
Seward, etc). Assuming each upwind station had rainfall during the rainfall period being analyzed
for a given storm event, it is required that SST be used as the rainfall at the upwind stations
"contaminates" the dew points reading that would have otherwise been used. This follows the
same guidance as used in previous AWA studies, HMRs 57 and 59, and the WMO PMP Manual. As
an example, all storms used in both the Lewis River and Piru Creek PMP studies required SST for
the storm maximization calculations and it is initially assumed the same will result in this study.
AWA
5/13/13
Response Tentatively
Accepted. BOC will
review future work and
will comment if needed.
"Response" Statement
subject to BOC Concurrence.
3 BOC MTG-1
Final
Report,
Nov. 9,
2012
2 of 8 Hydrology &
Meteorology
3) Barriers. The basin in question is surrounded by higher terrain, so some barrier-based moisture reduction is
expected. Please describe the procedure you will use for this project.
AWA will use the proportionality constant to quantify the effects of upwind and within basin
orographics on rainfall from one location (grid cell) to another. In addition, the general inflow
direction for each short list storm event will be determined and used to calculate the "effective
barrier height" from each of those directions from the coastline into the basin. This will provide a
minimum elevation to be used with each inflow direction in the maximization processes. Specific
details on these calculations and processes will be provided in upcoming memos, teleconferences,
and meetings. It is AWA's intention to ensure that all involved have complete understanding of
these processes, how they affect PMP, and how they are used to quantify orographic effects on
rainfall production from one location to another.
AWA
5/13/13
Response Tentatively
Accepted. BOC will
review future work and
will comment if needed.
"Response" Statement
subject to BOC Concurrence.
4 BOC MTG-1
Final
Report,
Nov. 9,
2012
3 of 8 Hydrology &
Meteorology
4) Elevation corrections for moisture. How will moisture corrections (e.g., reductions in available moisture) be
done in areas of high relief?
Per the discussion in the previous response, the proportionality constant and effective barrier
heights will be determined. This will allow for explicit evaluations of the amount of moisture
available to each short list storm, at each grid cell within the basin following standard (HMR,
WMO, AWA) procedures to determine PW at a given elevation.
AWA
5/13/13
Response Tentatively
Accepted. BOC will
review future work and
will comment if needed.
"Response" Statement
subject to BOC Concurrence.
5 BOC MTG-1
Final
Report,
Nov. 9,
2012
3 of 8 Hydrology &
Meteorology
5) How adequate is the data set for snowpack (SWE and depth)? How will the data be distributed (grid in GIS;
Point values only; Basin average; By elevation band)?
The snowpack data is less than for many other watersheds due to the very large size of the basin
and relatively few snowpack stations, but it is still expected to be adequate. The available
snowpack data and analysis results are expected to be distributed by sub-basin and by elevation
band based on precipitation data from PRISM.
JH
5/13/13
Response accepted. Snowpack
6 BOC MTG-1
Final
Report,
Nov. 9,
2012
3 of 8 Hydrology &
Meteorology
6) Will glacier dynamics be addressed (in terms of areal extent or water release)?The largest glaciers have been put in separate sub-basins where their special water release
characteristics can be addressed.
JH
5/13/13
Response Tentatively
Accepted. BOC will
review future work and
will comment if needed.
"Response" Statement
subject to BOC Concurrence.
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BOC
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Technical
Category
Comment Response Response
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Date
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7 BOC MTG-1
Final
Report,
Nov. 9,
2012
3 of 8 Hydrology &
Meteorology
7) The issue of “how many storms should be chosen for detailed analysis?” has been addressed. AWA's contract
calls for 10 storms. This is probably adequate, unless some older storms are found (see item 8. below).
Agreed, and AWA will let the data tell us the answer. If our storm search shows that 20 storm are
required, we will use those, if it show 5 storms are required we will use those. Ten storms is an
estimate based on previous PMP work along the West Coast and AWA's judgment. AWA will work
with the BoC and hydrologist in this process of determining the final number of storms to be used
in PMP development. The most importantly aspect is to ensure that no storm(s) is left off the list
that could control the PMP values at any area size or duration.
AWA
5/13/13
Response Tentatively
Accepted. BOC will
review future work and
will comment if needed.
"Response" Statement
subject to BOC Concurrence.
8 BOC MTG-1
Final
Report,
Nov. 9,
2012
3 of 8 Hydrology &
Meteorology
8) When asked about climate change effects on precipitation intensity, Bill Kappel stated that it is unlikely that
future climate will cause a significant increase in PMP, and that our historical storm data is adequate for
assessing future scenarios. However, the primary model of climate variability in Alaska is the Pacific Decadal
Oscillation (PDO), which has a quasi-cyclical variation of about 50 years. This led to generally warm conditions
from about 1920 to 1945, cooler conditions from the late forties through 1976-77, and warmer again through
the late 1990s. Somewhat cooler conditions have returned since then. It would be interesting to identify a few
storms from the two earlier periods to see if there were noticeable variations in precipitation intensity. This
could be done in a “screening” capacity using a simple approach such as AWA's SPAS-Lite.
AWA agrees with this statement and has an excellent understanding of the PDO cycle, as well as
its interactions (positive and negative feedback) with other cycles on varying timescales such as
ENSO, MJO, AO, etc. Each of these climatic patterns affect the frequency and strength of storm
systems which occur in the region. Unfortunately, the resulting affects are not well understood at
a quantifiable level. Instead, AWA's storm search methods are all encompassing as far as period of
record is concerned and therefore extend back to as far as the storm record allows. Generally, this
include ~100-years of data. This period of record inherently includes storm events that have
occurred during each potential combination of climatic cycles (i.e. +PDO, -PDO, La Nina, El Nino,
etc) that would be expected over the useful lifetime of this project (50-100-years or more). If the
final short list of storms does not include events that occurred during each of the cycles, AWA will
try to identify storms from each cycle period if possible and provide a high level analysis of these
results. However, there may be a reason that PMP-level storms don't occur during one of the
cycles and the data is trying to tell us a story. This will be an ongoing investigation during the short
list storm development process. If these investigations require substantial work outside of the
current scope for PMP development, AWA will work with the project lead and BoC to make
appropriate out-of-scope determinations.
AWA
5/13/13
Response Tentatively
Accepted. BOC will
review future work and
will comment if needed.
"Response" Statement
subject to BOC Concurrence.
9 BOC MTG-1
Final
Report,
Nov. 9,
2012
3 of 8 Hydrology &
Meteorology
9) AWA acknowledged that some storms may persist beyond 72 hours, and that, in fact, the critical PMF period
may be for 96 hours or more. AWA should consider these longer-duration events in their analyses.
AWA concurs and will let the data tell us what the appropriate PMP duration should be. It should
be noted that it is also possible the PMP storm may be less than 72-hours. AWA will place no
constraints on this duration at this time, but instead this will be based on the storm data from the
short list of storms.
AWA
5/13/13
Response Tentatively
Accepted. BOC will
review future work and
will comment if needed.
"Response" Statement
subject to BOC Concurrence.
10 BOC MTG-1
Final
Report,
Nov. 9,
2012
3 of 8 Hydrology &
Meteorology
COINCIDENT HYDROMETEOROLOGIC CONDITIONS - We concur with the approach described, but note that
extreme snow water equivalents deserve special attention. We understand that in many scenarios and
locations the depth of snow during the PMP will be so great as to be no limiting; however, there may be
scenarios, seasons, and elevation bands where the snow water equivalent does limit the potential runoff.
Storm sequences of 96 hours or more, depending on analysis by AWA, will be included in the
determination of the critical PMF inflow hydrograph. No predetermined maximum storm
sequence length will be set.
JH
5/13/13
Response Accepted.
Adopted probable
maximum storm length
of 216 hours is
consistent with
observed events and
adequate to cover basin
and reservoir response
time.
11 BOC MTG-1
Final
Report,
Nov. 9,
2012
3 of 8 Hydrology &
Meteorology
PROBABLE MAXIMUM FLOOD (PMF) - We concur with the elements and sequence of analyses for the PMF
study as proposed by MWH and believe that if successfully executed they will provide the hydrologic
information necessary to meet the public safety requirements of the project with respect to flood discharge
capacity and flood loading. Model selection. MWH proposes to use the HEC-1 model for the analysis. HEC-1 is
a spatially lumped, single event model that has been in widespread use for PMF hydrograph development for
several decades (with updates). Most of its computational algorithms (with the important exception of
snowmelt, as discussed below) have been incorporated in the HEC-HMS model, which was intended to replace
HEC-1. The primary advantages of HEC-HMS over HEC-1 are the Windows user interface, the Gems extension
which offers the capability to work with ArcGIS data, and the option to use spatially distributed runoff
algorithms. None of these are necessities in the proposed Susitna-Watana study and we have no objections to
MWH’s preference for HEC-1, which offers the advantages of transparency and a clearly documented energy
budget snowmelt routine.
Agreed. The HEC-1 Flood Hydrograph Package will be the rainfall-runoff model used to derive the
PMF.
JH
5/13/13
Response Accepted.
BOC concurs with use of
HEC-1.
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& Date
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Technical
Category
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Date
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12 BOC MTG-1
Final
Report,
Nov. 9,
2012
4 of 8 Hydrology &
Meteorology
Calibration and Verification. MWH has identified a number of storm/flood events and gage locations that may
be used for model calibration and verification, and proposes to calibrate the model on at least two events and
verify it on at least one. Applied Weather Associates will support this work by providing spatial and temporal
histories of the associated storms. The calibration/verification process is essential to developing a reliable
model and we strongly endorse this effort. The Gold Creek gage, located at a drainage area about 1,000 square
miles more than the project area, provides the most comprehensive and long-term flow record and is expected
to be a leading source of stream flow data for calibration. However, care should be taken, if at all possible, to
use multiple stream gages – including some of the within-basin gages with a shorter period of record than the
Gold Creek gage – in the calibration and verification effort. This will provide additional information on sensitive
or critical subareas within the basin.
Agreed, as discussed further at BOC Meeting 2A.JH
5/13/13
Response accepted.
Model calibration has
made use of multiple
gages in the watershed
13 BOC MTG-1
Final
Report,
Nov. 9,
2012
4 of 8 Hydrology &
Meteorology
Reservoir Routing. The significance of reservoir routing and the related issues of hydrograph shape and volume
(as opposed to peak flow only) will depend on the spillway configuration, freeboard allowance, and reservoir
level regime proposed for the project. These elements of the project are still not well defined but we urge both
MWH and Applied Weather Associates to remain open to the possibility that a long-duration, high-volume
event will be the critical one in establishing the PMF reservoir elevation. Furthermore, if reservoir storage is
intended to be used in passing the PMF, we will request additional information on the expected rate and spatial
distribution of sediment deposition in the reservoir.
Agreed with regards to long-duration, high volume events. Sedimentation analysis would be a
study done by others, or potentially information from the 1980s could be used.
JH
5/13/13
Response Tentatively
Accepted. Although
sedimentation analysis
is not part of the PMF
study, depending on the
importance of storage
in the final results the
BOC may request
reservoir routing
sensitivity analyses
assuming a loss of
storage due to
sedimentation.
14 BOC MTG-1
Final
Report,
Nov. 9,
2012
4 of 8 Hydrology &
Meteorology
Energy Budget Snowmelt Routine. MWH proposes to use the energy budget snowmelt routine as
recommended in FERC’s Engineering Guidelines. We concur with this approach, because the energy budget
method is much better suited for estimating the impacts of extreme rates of precipitation and wind on
snowmelt than temperature-index methods.
Agreed.JH
5/13/13
Response Accepted.
15 BOC MTG-1
Final
Report,
Nov. 9,
2012
4 of 8 Hydrology &
Meteorology
Limiting PMF Analysis to May – October. MWH provided historic peak flow data representing 59 years of
record at the Gold Creek gage downstream of the project in support of their proposal to analyze PMP and PMF
only for the months of May through October. The maximum recorded flows in November-March are generally
an order of magnitude smaller than the maximum recorded flows in the summer and early fall months. (April
falls in between.) In addition, MWH reported that peak snowmelt months are from late spring through
summer, and provided a preliminary reservoir level schedule which includes a drawdown, relative to the normal
maximum storage, of 30 to 100 feet in the winter months with the lowest pool projected for April. In light of
this information we agree that the months of May through October are probably an appropriate focus for the
PMP/PMF analysis. However, a review of annual flow hydrographs at the Gold Creek gage shows that (1) flow
hydrographs for the period November - April are generally missing and have been reconstituted; and (2) it is not
unusual for the reconstituted or estimated flow hydrograph to begin rising steeply in mid to late April and
continue rising into May. Based on these observations we request that AWA and/or MWH provide
confirmation that extreme precipitation/temperature events occurring in May and later adequately (or
conservatively) represent the potential for such events in April.
Covered in BOC Meeting 2A. Derivation of the PMF inflow hydrograph will be limited to the
months of May through October.
JH
5/13/13
Response Accepted.
Analyses through March
2014 did include April
events. MWH's and
AWA's reports
convincingly
demonstrated that the
combinations of
mechanisms needed for
"worst-case" flooding
would not be plausible
in November - March.
16 BOC MTG-1
Final
Report,
Nov. 9,
2012
5 of 8 Hydrology &
Meteorology
Other sources of flooding. We understand that the potential for glacial dam break floods is being addressed in
a separate study. We recommend that the findings of this study be considered in hydrologic design of the
project.
Noted - glacial specific studies are to be done by others.JH
5/13/13
Response Tentatively
Accepted. BOC will
review future work and
will comment if needed.
17 BOC MTG-1
Final
Report,
Nov. 9,
2012
5 of 8 Seismic PROBABLE SITE SPECIFIC SEISMIC HAZARD EVALUATION 1) Conduct sensitivity studies using
an existing hazard model to evaluate potential impact of new data before starting additional data collection:
- Focus on what is most important to hazard at the dam site
- May be able to limit studies of crustal faults to faults that pass within the site region (about 20 km radius)
Agreed. In keeping with recommendations by our seismic hazard consultant, we intend to conduct
sensitivity studies as part of the seismic hazard study.
MB
5/13/13
Response Tentatively
Accepted. BOC will
review future work and
will comment if needed.
"Response" Statement
subject to BOC Concurrence.
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Final
Report,
Nov. 9,
2012
5 of 8 Seismic 2) Use the PSHA (Probabilistic Seismic Hazard Analysis) to help guide selection of a reasonable deterministic
event:
-Selection of Ground motion variability level (med, 84th) is still more dominant than the nominal variation in
earthquake magnitude adopted
Agreed.MB
5/13/13
Response Tentatively
Accepted. BOC will
review future work and
will comment if needed.
"Response" Statement
subject to BOC Concurrence.
19 BOC MTG-1
Final
Report,
Nov. 9,
2012
5 of 8 Seismic 3) Consider using “Approved” simulation methods for key cases (in early 2014):
- M7.5-M8 slab earthquakes
- M9-M9.5 interface earthquakes
Agreed. Due to funding, this activity may not be completed until 4Q13.MB
5/13/13
Response Tentatively
Accepted. BOC will
review future work and
will comment if needed.
"Response" Statement
subject to BOC Concurrence.
20 BOC MTG-1
Final
Report,
Nov. 9,
2012
5 of 8 Seismic 4) Should collect data to constrain the VS30 (shear wave velocity in the upper 30 meters) for ground motion
models
Agreed. These measurements will be collected during the 2013 field season.MB
5/13/13
Response Tentatively
Accepted. BOC will
review future work and
will comment if needed.
"Response" Statement
subject to BOC Concurrence.
21 BOC MTG-1
Final
Report,
Nov. 9,
2012
5 of 8 Seismic 5) Consider the full network (new and existing)
- What is the current broadband and strong motion instrumentation in the region?
- A single strong motion recording is not of much value. Need min of about 5 stations within 100 km to be able
to understand recording at dam, i.e., earthquake source, ray path, site response?
- Develop an instrumentation plan that will provide results useful to ground motion evaluation, not just RTS
(Reservoir Triggered Seismicity)
For further details of the above see the attached presentation by N. Abrahamson (Attachment D to the BOC
report).
Three additional BB seismographs are being installed in 3Q13. In addition, 3 SM seimogrpahs will
be installed in conjuntion with the BB at three of the 6 BB stations. The range of the network will
be expanded to 30 miles.
MB
5/13/13
Response Tentatively
Accepted. BOC will
review future work and
will comment if needed.
BOC Concurance
22 BOC MTG-1
Final
Report,
Nov. 9,
2012
6 of 8 Seismic The BOC feels that it would be helpful to the project for Dr. Abrahamson to provide a Table of readings of
seismographs which recorded motions at various distances from the 2002 Denali M 7.9 earthquake. This
information from the Denali Earthquake would be most useful as a calibration and verification of the scientific
information and equations proposed. This information also may be more appropriate to consider in
determining an attenuation relationship for this project as opposed to information from around the world. In
addition, any computational model should be calibrated to the measurements obtained from the 2002 Denali
Earthquake.
The project team has the recorded motions for the 2002 Denali M 7.9 EQ. An article on the 2002
Denali EQ was provide to the BOC: Martirosyan, A., Hansen, R., and Ratchkovski, N. (2004). Strong-
Motion Records of the 2002 Denali Fault, Alaska, Earthquake, Earthquake Spectra, 20, 579-596
MB
5/13/13
Response Tentatively
Accepted. BOC will
review future work and
will comment if needed.
BOC Concurance
23 BOC MTG-1
Final
Report,
Nov. 9,
2012
6 of 8 Seismic ADDITIONAL RECOMMENDATIONS NOT REFERRED TO OR DISCUSSED IN THE SEISMIC STUDY PLAN -
Ice Jacking Concerns. Given the present considerations of a concrete dam option (RCC), the existing foundations
and associated stability and shear strength of the foundation rocks are a significant factor. Thus, the concerns
regarding permafrost as well as ice jacking within the exposed foundation rocks should be explored. If ice
conditions and ice jacking have moved the foundation rocks it can be a serious reduction of the shear strength
properties of the foundations being considered for the concrete dam. Therefore, future geologic and
geotechnical explorations should focus on this aspect of the Project. Perhaps select borings and adits into
suspicious areas should be considered to establish or disprove the ice jacking concerns.
Exploratory adits have been proposed to be excavated. Priority will be given to the left abutment
adit to evaluate the presense of frozen ground and the potential for ice-filled discontinuities.
BES
5/13/13
Response Tentatively
Accepted. BOC will
review future work and
will comment if needed.
BOC Concurance and
encourages adit construction
ASAP
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2012
6 of 8 Seismic Additional Considerations on Earthquakes. In addition to the proposed studies of earthquakes to arrive at the
ground motions based on the most current models, it is the judgment of the BOC that work should be done
within the current study or future studies to give some guidance on the possibility of the design earthquake
producing a displacement or offset along the dam foundation. These features should be studied and
investigated and a determination should be made whether this potential fault is a credible concern to be
addressed in the design of the dam. This effort is recommended to avoid a fault being discovered during
excavation along the footprint of the dam during construction. It may be necessary to align additional
exploration borings or excavated adits to explore and/or eliminate such conditions. Earlier geologic studies of
linear features of the site indicated a linear feature, shown on one of the plans presented during the meeting,
called the “Watana Feature” that ran along the Watana River. The possibility of such a feature should be further
studied and essentially discounted. Earlier studies (1980’s) attempted to drill exploratory borings crisscrossing
the river to investigate the continuity of the geology within the river bottom. It is not certain that the possibility
of a shear/fault feature was discounted or not. This potential should be studied by an additional geologic expert
like William Lettis, who is associated with the present study team. If sympathetic displacements along this
feature or other linear features within the dam footprint cannot be discounted then discontinuous
displacements should be considered. If it is deemed that this consideration is possible then consideration of a
different type of dam may be necessary. Various dam types are available that are less sensitive to
displacements and offsets and that can safely be designed to accommodate such conditions. Thus, the study
plans need to address the potential of less desirable foundations such as ice jacking within the existing
foundation rocks as well as the potential of foundation displacements. Until these conditions can be better
understood, the type of dam must be considered preliminary. The upcoming spring geological/geotechnical
study program must address these issues.
AEA believes that offset is very unlikely, but the Site investigation will be planned to include
drillholes across the area of any potential geologic feature having the potential for offset and a
fault evlaution will be undertaken.
BES
5/13/13
Response Tentatively
Accepted. BOC will
review future work and
will comment if needed.
BOC to review additional
2013 field studies in the
vicinity of the dam site
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Report,
Nov. 9,
2012
7 of 8 Geotechnical FERC REQUESTED THAT THE FOLLOWING ADDITIONAL QUESTION BE ADDRESSED BY THE BOC - Does the BOC
agree that the type of dam being considered (RCC) is the most appropriate type of dam for this site?
As stated in BOC Mtg 1 - Final Report, this question is to be addressed at the next BOC meeting (#2)
scheduled for March 7-8, 2013.
DOWL HKM/
Schnabel
To be addressed during
the BOC #2 Meeting. The
2013 field studies and
mapping will determine
the final acceptance
Complete. No further action
required on this for BOC
MTG-1
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AEA BOC:2A NOTES:
PROJECT:SUSITNA WATANA BOC
Item No.Sheet No. / Page
No.Design Document Design Group Comment By Comment Comment
Date Response By Response
Date Response Status Notes
1 2 AEA BOC
Workshop 2A-
Meteorology /
Hydrology
George Taylor /
Ellen Faulkner
Short storm list. We concur with the methodology used to develop the short storm
list and the final results.4/16/2013 AWA Agreed.No change following Meeting 4.
2 2 Meteorology /
Hydrology
Storm maximization process. In general the approach adopted by AWA is the
accepted and most effective way to maximize moisture for historic storms. During our
discussion, AWA mentioned a willingness to consider larger (regional) source areas
for SST, and we believe that such a procedure would be helpful. An approach using a
wider source area allays concerns that the maximization process (in which the
moisture source location is shifted by exactly the same vector as the storm center)
generates a redundant reduction when combined with the proportionality constant
method for orographic transposition.
4/16/2013 AWA Covered in BOC Meeting 2A.
No change following Meeting 4.AWA procedure is similar to that used in
HMR-57. Considering the dearth of ground
measurements of humidity in Alaska, using
sea surface temperatures is certainly the
favored approach. G Taylor, 4/17/14
3 2 Meteorology /
Hydrology
Transposition of SPAS DAD analyses. It is our opinion that storms separated from the
target basin by significant terrain boundaries should not be transposed into the basin.
Based on the information presented to date, we concur with AWA’s proposal to
exclude storm centers south of the coastal mountains. The suggested sensitivity
analysis would be informative but we do not believe it is essential to the present
study.
4/16/2013 AWA Agreed.
No change following Meeting 4.
4 2 Meteorology /
Hydrology
Proportionality constant and orographic transposition. AWA’s proportionality
constant approach appears to be superior to any other such technique, particularly
the storm separation approach. Nevertheless, since the technique is still relatively
new, the Board would like to continue to review results of AWA’s activities in this
regard. In particular, we would like to review proportionality constant results for each
individual storm when they become available.
4/16/2013 AWA Agreed.
AWA has modified its approach
to storm transposition. The mew
method was discussed in
Meeting 4 and, while subtle,
seems to be an improvement.
AWA calls its method the "Orographic
Transposition Factor (OTF)". It is obtained
by normalizing observed rainfall,
transposing to the target watershed, and
converting back to rainfall depth. G Taylor,
4/17/14
5 2 Meteorology /
Hydrology
Meteorological time series development. In our opinion AWA’s proposed approach
is appropriate and valid. Identifying the most critical intersection between rainfall
potential, temperature, and snowpack depth is key to the PMF development.
4/16/2013 AWA Agreed.
No change following Meeting 4.
6 2 Meteorology /
Hydrology
Other comments. We are in agreement with the work to date on the PMF model
development and calibration, and agree with the calibration event selection process
and outcomes. For our next meeting we would like to review existing information on
permafrost within the basin, although it is understood that soil cover is thin to
nonexistent over most of the basin.
4/16/2013 JH 5/13/2013 To be supplied at the next BOC
meeting.
Accepted - The depth and spatial
extent of permafrost has been
addressed in the draft PMF
report and the very low
calibrated loss rates - while they E Faulkner, 4/18/2014
AEA Susitna-Watana BOC Meeting #2 in Bellevue, WA (March 7-8, 2013) - Comment and Response Log
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& Date
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Category
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The BOC is of the opinion that the 700 foot “gravity arch” dam structure being considered is not appropriate for the shape of
the valley at the Watana location. A straight or slightly curved RCC gravity structure with 1V: 0.85H, as presented in the NTP 13,
Technical Memorandum No. 1 (Updated Alternatives Evaluation) is far more appropriate.
See answer to item 2 BES
5/13/13
Response Tentatively
Accepted. BOC will
review future work and
will comment if needed.
Concept was studied and revised
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It appears from the studies presented, a hybrid configuration consisting of a central arch with outer gravity sections on both abutments, have
been attempted to force fit a “gravity arch” section into the present topography. Further, the gravity sections are aligned such that they
might be susceptible to down-slope sliding. Given the fact that the Watana Dam will not only be a very high dam but will also be in a
seismically active area subject to very high seismic motions and deformations, it seems that tried and true methods combined with simple
and predictable geometry are in order. There is a big difference between a “curved gravity dam” and a “gravity arch dam”. The curved
gravity dam is designed as a gravity structure dependent on the weight of the dam for stability, while the gravity arch dam is a reduced
gravity structure which depends on the combined arch and gravity actions to resist loads, provided that the valley shape will permit the arch
action to be fully developed. This dam will not only be among the highest dams in North America, it will also be the highest RCC dam
constructed in a high seismic area of North America.
The feasibility studies for the project are
progressing with the aim of the selection
of an optimal arrangement for the dam at
the site, taking into account the
foundation and abutment conditions. The
presentation to the Board of Consultants
at this meeting was not of the final
proposed arrangement, but only a
“snapshot” of the design during the
optimization process. AEA expects to
continue to analyze various dam
geometries, - including the results of the
site investigations as they become
available - and will take into account the
opinions of the Board in the preparation
of the final recommended proposal.
BES
5/13/13
Response Accepted by
BOC
BOC Concurance
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Since the construction period for the dam is restricted to the 5-6 summer months, high RCC placing rates are planned, therefore simplicity in
the details of the design are important considerations. The need for contraction joint grouting and, therefore, post cooling of the RCC will be
required for the gravity arch dam, as being considered, will require many additional items to be incorporated into the RCC, such as
waterstops, grout tubes and cooling water tubes, all of which will be serious impediments to achieving high RCC placement rates. Thus, a
cautious and conservative approach, such as a design with a simple configuration that can be analyzed and constructed with high level of
confidence, should be taken in the selection of the type of RCC structure, as described in the comments above.
The opinion of the Board of Consultants is
noted
BES
5/13/13
Response Accepted.
BOC will review future
work and will comment
if needed.
BOC Concurs and details to be included in
future studies
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Based on the maps and materials supplied, the lineaments indicated on earlier maps and studies, such as the Watana Lineament, have been
indicated as insignificant and not a cause for potential foundation movement at the site. The planned 2013 and 2014 site investigation
program will further investigate several earlier indicated linear features and shears to further confirm the stability of the geologic and
foundation conditions.
Agreed BES
5/13/13
Response Accepted.
BOC will review future
work and will comment
if needed.
To be included in the 2013 and 2014 field
investigation and mapping programs
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In addition, several borings and test trenches as well as mapping and age dating of materials will be conducted to ensure the understanding
and confirmation of the earlier studies and conclusions.
Additional site investigations are planned
including a fault evaluation study.
BES
5/13/13
Response Accepted.
BOC will review future
work and will comment
if needed.
To be included in the 2013 and 2014 field
investigation and mapping programs
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Other significant investigations entail exploratory adits in each abutment to investigate the character of identified shears as well as the effects
of ice and frozen conditions on the stability of rock conditions and rock foundation blocks.
The designers agree and endorse the need
for exploratory adits to investigate the
rock mass at depth in the abutments
BES
5/13/13
Response Accepted.
BOC will review future
work and will comment
if needed.
To be included in the 2013 and 2014 field
investigation and mapping programs
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& Date
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The BOC encourages the use of all of the methods and technology [listed in above comments] and in particular the exploratory adits. The
adits will be the most positive proof method to establish the significance of the foundation features; and thus are highly recommended.
Agreed BES
5/13/13
Response Accepted.
BOC will review future
work and will comment
if needed.
To be included in the 2013 and 2014 field
investigation and mapping programs
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Further it is recommended that the 2013 field mapping and studies regarding the shear structures named GS4 and GS5 should be confirmed
and located more accurately.
Agreed BES
5/13/13
Response Accepted.
BOC will review future
work and will comment
if needed.
To be included in the 2013 and 2014 field
investigation and mapping programs
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Once located accurately [shear structures, GS4 and GS5] and confirmed, the dam alignment should be adjusted to eliminate founding the
dam footprint on any of these structures.
The nature of these features and their
characterisation will be undertaken during
the site investigation, and the treatment
(or design) necessary will be examined
during the design process. If treatment or
design is not sufficient, then consideration
will be given to relocating the dam.
BES
5/13/13
Response Accepted.
BOC will review future
work and will comment
if needed.
To be included in the 2013 and 2014 field
investigation and mapping programs
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It is recommended that the energy of the geologists and the funding be focused on the mapping, drilling and adits at the dam site area in a
major effort to define the geometry of the shears in order to locate the dam such that any offsets occurring along these features during an
earthquake do not need to be considered. This activity must be given the highest priority compared to lineament studies at significant
distances from the possible dam site.
Agreed BES
5/13/13
Response Accepted.
BOC encourages
urgency of this work
and will review future
work and will comment
if needed.
To be included in the 2013 and 2014 field
investigation and mapping programs
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Regarding the development of the seismic design criteria for the Project, the BOC would be interested in seeing the data; namely the
accelerations, velocities, displacements and attenuations recorded at the seismic stations during the recent large Alaska earthquakes. This
information should be instrumental in selecting the seismic parameters for design.
Sent MB
5/13/13
Response Accepted.
BOC will review future
work and will comment
if needed.
"Response" Statement subject to BOC
Concurrence.
12 The BOC would like to review the following at the next meeting in May:
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3 of 3 Geotechnical, Structural, Concrete, Hydroelectric1. The proposed design earthquake(s) and associated ground motions for various features of the Project. 1. AEA will provide the planning criteria
that are being used in the feasibility
design analysis. The proposed criteria for
final design will not be available by May
BES
5/13/13
Response Tentatively
Accepted. BOC will
review future work and
will comment if needed.
"Response" Statement subject to BOC
Concurrence.
2. Preliminary dynamic analysis of gravity section subjected to the design earthquake motions.2. AEA will provide analyses completed by
the time of the May meeting - probably
only 2D analyses
Tenatively Accepted
3. Preliminary thermal analysis for gravity dam.3. AEA will perform a basic 2D analysis in
time for the May meeting, but notes that
the actual thermal conditions will be much
more complex than that - and thus little
can be surmised from a simple 2D analysis
Tenatively Accepted
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4. Reduced height of spillway gates & piers for improved cross-valley response of the piers.4. While recognizing the impetus for
limiting the pier height, until the PMP and
PMF studies are complete in October or
November (so that proper flood routing
can be performed) AEA considers that
focus on this aspect of the design is
unwarranted. For the purposes of studying
construction planning, and the associated
cost estimation, AEA proposes to continue
to use the 1980s spillway configuration,
but will reassess the design after the PMF
has been determined.
Include Spillway Pier
Studies as soon as PMF
Studies are Complete
5. Identify the existence of the shear zones and confirm their locations on the present mapping results of early geologic mapping.5. Identification of the shear zones and
confirming their locations on the present
mapping will be performed as a part of
this year’s site investigations. The results
of earlier geoplogical mapping will be
presented at the BOC meeting 3.
To be included in the
2013 and 2014 field
investigation and
mapping programs
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AEA Susitna-Watana BOC Meeting #3 in Anchorage, AK (May 29-30th, 2013) - Comment and Response Log
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& Date
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Category
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by and
Date
Status Notes
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Report,
June 5,
2013
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The BOC visited the dam site on Wednesday May 29, 2013 from the air on a helicopter and could land only on the state-owned
highest point on the right river bank. The helicopter ride started from Talkeetna along the Susitna River to the dam site at
Watana and further upstream to observe potential landslide sites within the reservoir. Both the right and left abutments were
observed flying relatively close to the river banks noting the slope conditions, presence or lack of surficial geologic features, and
the planned left abutment adit location. Overall, persistent NW-SE geologic features topped with rock outcrop were evident at
repeated intervals near and upstream of the dam site. The closest such geological feature was observed to be several hundred
feet upstream, but not at the dam alignment. Traces of the geologic features GF4 and GF5 identified within the right abutment
were not visible on the surface and could not be observed from the air, but they will be investigated by the planned 2013-2014
borings and seismic refraction surveys.
Based on the above observations and information gathered recently and during previous investigations, the BOC concurs with
the current location of the dam alignment pending the results of the geotechnical/geological investigations planned for 2013-
2014. The observed geometry of the site with a relatively narrow section at the river channel and flatter slopes at the upper
elevations confirms the BOC’s previously recommended slightly curved gravity dam section for this site. The BOC is in agreement
with the revised gravity dam configuration curved at a radius of 3500 feet and notes that the main purpose of such a curved
layout is to provide wedging action for an improved resistance to downstream sliding and that the effects of such curvature on
cantilever stresses may not be significant. As such the reduction of the high cantilever tensile stresses from the 2D analysis
should be accomplished by other means such as sloping the upstream face and the use of lower rock modulus in the upper
foundation layer, as discussed in the BOC response to Question 2. The geometry of the canyon section, height of the dam, and
high earthquake ground motions, suggest that a group of dam monoliths in the narrower central section more likely would stay
together but could potentially separate from the monoliths on the upper abutments. In this situation, the wedging action of the
curvature built into the design would constrain movements of the central group of monoliths but the monoliths in the upper
abutment separated from the group by opened joints might be vulnerable to sliding and could benefit from a defensive design
such as stepping of the dam-foundation contact and other means that improves their resistance.
The opinion of the Board of Consultants is
noted. Configuration optimization continues -
as far as is reasonable - in the absence of
update specific foundation information that
will eventually be obtained from a focussed
site investigation program.
BES
1/15/14
BOC Concurs with
Response. The final dam
location and orientation
will be confirmed
following the 2013 Field
Investigation and
mapping program
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Further, the BOC concurs with the axis of the dam being rotated upstream away from the alteration zone on the left abutment. Consistent
with this rotation, the spillway has appropriately been moved to the right side to project directly into the river channel. All in all, the revised
dam configuration fits reasonably well to the site geometry and provides a sound baseline design for feasibility studies, while linear features
crossing the dam are being investigated to confirm the stability of the geologic and foundation conditions. In the event that features crossing
the dam are more extensive than presently envisioned it may be necessary to move the dam alignment to a location away from such features.
The opinion of the Board of Consultants is
noted.
BES
1/15/14
BOC Concurs with
Response. The final dam
location and orientation
will be confirmed
following the 2013 Field
Investigation and
mapping program
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At the last BOC Meeting (Meeting No. 2) the Board asked that the following be produced for review at this meeting; Meeting No. 3:
1. The proposed design earthquake(s) and associated ground motions for various features of the Project
2. Preliminary dynamic analysis of a gravity section subjected to the design earthquake motions
3. Preliminary thermal analysis for a gravity dam
4. Reduced height of spillway gates & piers for improved cross-valley response of piers
5. Identify the existence of the geologic features and confirm their locations on the present mapping. Results of early geologic mapping”
All of the above items were addressed with the exception of No. 4. Item 4 will not be addressed until enough information on the PMF is
developed and instead the original spillway design, from the old 1980’s configuration, will be used. The Board concurs with that approach.
The opinion of the Board of Consultants is
noted.
BES
1/15/14
All listed items are still
being studied and need
to be concluded and
presented to the BOC
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In response to a previous BOC comment concerning comparison of available recorded data with the attenuation relationships proposed for
prediction of ground motions at the dam site, the BOC was furnished with a published paper entitled “Strong Motion Records of the 2002
Denali Fault, Alaska, Earthquake.” This paper published in 2004 provides a comparison of recorded data with several pre NGA attenuation
relationships. The BOC suggests similar comparisons be made using the NGA ground motion prediction relationships that are being used in
this project. It is also noted that the seismicity data recorded and analyzed by AEIC provide an excellent opportunity for checking ground
motion prediction relationships associated with the intraslab earthquakes. These data may be useful in removing some uncertainties
associated with the site-to-source distance and Vs30 values.
Work is ongoing within the project team with
regard to this matter.
BES
1/15/14
To be presented at the
next BOC Meeting
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AEA Susitna-Watana BOC Meeting #3 in Anchorage, AK (May 29-30th, 2013) - Comment and Response Log
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The Board is encouraged that the presently proposed dam now incorporates a gravity dam section with a downstream slope of 0.9H to 1.0V
and a slight upstream curvature. This section is an improvement over the previous cross sections and is felt to be more appropriate given the
difficult site and high seismic requirements. Based on the dynamic analysis results presented for the above section, it appears that there is an
excessive tension calculated along the upstream portion on the dam. The Board recommends two enhancements to more accurately realize
and reduce the dynamic response of the dam: 1) consider sloping the upstream face of the dam and 2) consider reducing the modulus of the
upper layer of the foundation rock to account for the existing and blast generated fractures near the ground surface. An upstream slope of
0.2H to 1.0V together with a downstream slope of 0.7H to 1.0 V would be an appropriate section to analyze and would not increase the
current volume of the concrete. In addition, a variation on the foundation rock modulus varying from 500,000 psi to 1,000,000 psi would be
an appropriate consideration to assess sensitivity of the results to rock modulus. With consideration of these two modifications the Board
feels that the tensile zones will be smaller and more localized as well as manageable. The Board also recommends that the yield acceleration
be calculated, as a gravity section, for each cross section studied.
Potential variations of dam geometry continue to
be investigated. Matters raised by the Board of
Consultants are being addressed.
BES
1/15/14
To be considered and
analyzed and presented
at the next BOC
Meeting
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The Board does appreciate that this phase of the Feasibility need not get into the final design details however, it also feels that there are
significant basic conditions that influence the performance of the dam, especially the response to seismic loading, and the internal stresses
developed from extreme temperature loading. These factors can and may well affect the feasibility and estimated cost of the Project.
The opinion of the Board of Consultants is
noted. Temperature studies are delayed
slightly as the construction sequencing is
investigated.
BES
1/15/14
BOC Concurs with
Response.
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Whether the present Feasibility Report addresses or tries to address all of the potential conditions of the dam and its environs is up to both
the Owner and the Engineer, however there are serious conditions and considerations that eventually must be addressed. The following are
several considerations identified, that need to be recognized:
o The existence of permafrost within the foundation rock formations and how it has affected or will affect the foundation characteristics (i.e.
ice jacking, rock block movements, long term foundation permeability etc.)
o Thermal considerations regarding placement of RCC directly on the cold foundations and shrinkage.
o The transverse joint spacing that is appropriate for the cold climate and the thermal shock stresses generated by the cold water when the
reservoir is impounded.
o Considerations regarding longitudinal cracking from concrete shrinkage and foundation restraint
o Consideration of foundation grouting within the extremely cold foundation rocks and groundwater.
o The complications of sequencing of the seasonal placements and the thermal effects on the internal stress development
The above considerations are just a few, when taken piecemeal appear to be insignificant, however the total of the above and many other
conditions of the site need to be taken seriously and into consideration to fully accomplish the successful design and construction of the dam.
Thus, the Board recommends that several of the above conditions be factored into the feasibility report, especially consideration of a sloping
upstream face and reduction of the foundation modulus. The upstream sloping face enhances both the static and dynamic stability as well as
reducing the Westergaard hydrodynamic forces on the upstream face.
The team fully recognise the importance of the
matters raised - as well as others - and is working as
fast as possible towards a design status that
accomodates these outstanding matters. However,
finalisation of project proposals is hugely
dependent on the results of as yet unfinished site
investigation & drilling, materials testing, geological
characterization, lineament analysis and adit
construction - all of which are dependent on access
to the land at the site. Engineering judgement is
being made and assumptions made to facilitate the
completion of a draft design and draft feasibility
report.
BES
1/15/14
BOC Concurs with the
response and
encourages the
geological
characterization and
finalization of the
foundation conditions
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New information on Probable Maximum Precipitation (PMP) and Probable Maximum Flood (PMF) included Applied Weather Associates’
update on the analysis of historic storms for PMP development and HEC-1 model calibration, and MWH’s discussion of how snowmelt and
glacier ice melt would be addressed in modeling the PMF. Otherwise, Applied Weather Associates and MWH provided a synopsis of the
information discussed at the April 3-4, 2013 PMP/PMF Workshop.
The Board concurs with MWH’s proposal to develop the spatial distribution of the 100-year snow water equivalent (SWE) based on limited
SWE observations and an assumed proportionality between SWE at various recurrence intervals and total October-April precipitation. This is
appropriate for the months of May and June which could see significant snowpack remaining over at least part of the basin. For the later
summer months the only snow- or ice-covered areas would be the glaciers in the headwater areas. The glaciers will contribute meltwater
coincident with the PMP, which MWH proposes to represent as the 100-year, 3-day flow volume at the nearest downstream gage. This may
prove to be a very conservative assumption, as the largest floods recorded at the upper watershed gages are probably a combination of
summer storm runoff and glacier melt.
The 100-year 3-day flow volume was intended to be
used as an upper bound comparison parameter to
ensure that snowmelt was not over-estimated. The
actual modeled method for glaciers will be to treat
them as an essentially unlimited snowpack with
snowmelt determined by the energy budget
method. The general lack of meteorological data at
high elevations suggests the desirability of making
approximate checks of the PMF where possible.
JCH
1/24/14
The BOC Concures,
however, The Final
presentation of the
AWA Studies should be
presented at the next
BOC Meeting
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Meteorology
In the letter report on the April 3-4 PMP/PMF workshop, the Board members at the workshop stated an opinion that historical storms
occurring south of the coastal range should not be transposed into the Susitna basin, because the coastal mountains create an effective
moisture barrier. The basin flyover tour on May 29 supported the assessment of the southern mountain range as a significant topographic
barrier relative to the project watershed. The airplane basin tour also provided the opportunity to note numerous pools of standing water in
the low-relief eastern subbasins (e.g. subbasin 17), indicating at least seasonally impervious soils
Agreed.JCH
B. Kappel
1/24/14
currently waiting on
response to Comment
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