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RAILBELT TRANSMISSION ORGANIZATION (RTO)
REGULAR AGENDA
February 14, 2025
Alaska Energy Authority
Conference Room
1. CALL TO ORDER
Curtis Thayer, AEA, called the Railbelt Transmission Organization Governance Committee
meeting to order at 12:00 p.m. A quorum was established.
2. ROLL CALL (for Committee members)
Ed Jenkin (Railbelt Reliability Counsel [RRC]); Travis Million (Golden Valley Electric Association
[GVEA]); Tony Izzo (Matanuska Electric Association [MEA]); Brad Janorschke (Homer Electric
Association [HEA]); Brian Hickey (City of Seward); Arthur Miller (Chugach Electric Association
[CEA]); and Curtis Thayer (Alaska Energy Authority [AEA]).
3. PUBLIC ROLL CALL (for all others present)
Karen Bell, Jennifer Bertolini, William Price (AEA); Joel Paisner (Ascent Law Partners); Kody
George (City of Seward); Daniel Heckman (GVEA); Andrew Jensen (Office of the Governor);
Jessica Spuhler (HEA); Tony Zellers (MEA); Carl Monroe (Munro Advisors); Bernie Smith (Public);
and Tina Grovier (Stoel Rives, RTO Working Group).
4. AGENDA APPROVAL
MOTION: A motion was made by Mr. Million to approve the agenda. Motion seconded by
Mr. Izzo.
Mr. Janorschke asked if Item 9. should be moved to before Item 8. Chair Thayer agreed to that
possibility. He believes that much of what is discussed in Item 9. will be discussed in Item 7.
Chair Thayer asked Tina Grovier, Stoel Rives, RTO Working Group, if there are any concerns
moving Item 9. to before Item 8. Ms. Grovier noted there were no concerns. There was no
objection to the friendly amendment.
A roll call was taken, and the motion to approve the agenda, with the friendly amendment
to move Item 9. to before Item 8., passed unanimously.
5. PUBLIC COMMENTS - None
6. APPROVAL OF THE MEETING MINUTES – December 6, 2024 / December 16, 2024
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MOTION: A motion was made by Mr. Janorschke to approve the Meeting Minutes of
December 6, 2024, and December 16, 2024. Motion seconded by Mr. Miller.
A roll call was taken, and the motion to approve the Minutes of December 6, 2024, and
December 16, 2024 passed unanimously.
7. OLD BUSINESS
A. RTO Working Group Update
i. Workplan for the OATT
Daniel Heckman, GVEA, provide the RTO Working Group update. Mr. Heckman discussed that
the RTO Working Group has been working on the effort and process toward filing the Open
Action Transmission Tariff (OATT) document that is due on or before July 1, 2025. The consultant
has completed the assignment to outline the OATT and to assign the specific sections to
members of the RTO Working Group or to legal representatives. The consultant has also been
working with various entities, AEA, and the City of Seward on the financial analysis that will drive
the annual transmission revenue requirement. Mr. Heckman noted that anything from the legal
and regulatory side that could support the OATT development process is being discussed. The
hope is that the RTO Working Group will agree on a resolution within the next couple of
months.
Mr. Heckman believes the work plan is audacious, aggressive, and necessary, given the current
time constraints. He noted that the subcommittee Working Group is meeting more frequently
with the intent to propose additional governance committee meetings so that the RTO sees the
results of the RTO Working Group’s efforts on a consistent basis and be able to provide
feedback. The next two-day workshop will be next week at AEA offices, and will focus on
deliverables to present at the March RTO Governance Committee meeting.
Mr. Janorschke expressed appreciation for the update and for the efforts of the RTO Working
Group. He commented that the Legislature has mentioned, and Mr. Heckman mentioned the
elimination of wheeling costs in the Railbelt. Mr. Janorschke does not believe that there is
anything in the bill that eliminates wheeling. The bill eliminates pancaking of rates. Mr.
Janorschke asked for clarification. Mr. Heckman noted that he does not have the bill in front of
him, and apologized if he misspoke. Mr. Heckman believes the intent is to set a consistent rate
that is being paid regardless of the access to the Railbelt electric system. Mr. Heckman explained
that wheeling, as it is understood today, will not be the same after the OATT is filed.
Mr. Hickey discussed his understanding of the objective is to gather the costs and uplift them to
an end-use consumer, rather than attach them to a transferred megawatt, which has the effect
of eliminating wheeling as it is known today. This does not eliminate transmission costs. Mr.
Heckman agreed. He explained that it has been stated to the Regulatory Commission of Alaska
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(RCA) that the costs that are already being incurred by the utilities for wheeling will be uplifted
to the end-user, similar to a line item on bill. Mr. Heckman noted that the costs and events are
already occurring, and those will be morphed from the utilities to the RTO.
Mr. Miller agreed that his understanding is that the costs are pooled, and the costs will then be
allocated on one coincident peak (CP) basis to each of the respective utilities, and each utility
will be assigned and responsible for a dollar amount, which will be updated annually or
periodically. There is no change in the overall cost structure, but the cost responsibility will be
different based on the new basis. In this context, there is no wheeling rate, but the utilities are
still paying the cost.
Mr. Izzo noted that Mr. Miller mentioned one coincident peak. Mr. Izzo asked Mr. Heckman if
that was decided by the Working Group. Mr. Heckman noted that the Working Group did not
make that decision. He referenced that the bill includes language describing a coincident peak
basis. Mr. Heckman discussed his understanding is that is part of the information Carl Monroe,
Munroe Advisors, is presenting as part of a suite of possible options for the utilities to review.
Mr. Izzo commented that his question was not an indication of support or opposition. It was to
clarify that the Working Group had not made that determination.
Mr. Jenkin noted that Mr. Heckman mentioned there were still two entities missing financial data
that is needed to determine a unified method for allocations. Mr. Jenkin asked Mr. Heckman if
he knew what was causing the delay in acquiring the financial data to move forward with the
analysis. Mr. Heckman indicated that Mr. Monroe is attending online. Mr. Heckman believes that
Mr. Monroe is in direct contact with the entities that need to finalize the missing data, and that a
separate, but related discussion should focus on the different ways the entities have been
allocating the costs. Mr. Heckman requested that Mr. Monroe provide additional information.
There was no objection.
Mr. Monroe reiterated that Mr. Heckman did a great job explaining the context. Mr. Monroe
discussed that the financial analysis includes taking the current ATRRs and evaluating how to
move forward to determine a rate. The second part of the process is the ATRR review, and
includes the two entities that are missing financial data. The analysis will review the similarities
and differences between the way each entity calculates their ATRR. There were no other
comments or questions.
B. RTO Certificate Filing
Ms. Grovier provided the update on the RTO Certificate Filing. Ms. Grovier stated that the
application and the motion for exemption and waivers was filed on December 20, 2024. The
public was noticed, and three comments were received from Regulatory Affairs & Public
Advocacy (RAPA), Renewable Energy Alaska Project (REAP), and Alaska Public Interest Research
Group (AKPIRG). The Commission granted the motion for exemption and waivers, and invited
RAPA and other intervenors to file in the docket. The prehearing conference was scheduled for
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February 18, 2025, and a statutory deadline was set for June 8, 2025. Ms. Grovier indicated that
RAPA has filed to participate and AKPIRG has filed to intervene. The response to AKPIRG is due
February 19, 2025. Ms. Grovier commented that Mr. Heckman’s update was very good.
C. Open Access Transmission Filing
MOTION: A motion was made by Mr. Million to enter into Executive Session to discuss
confidential financial matters related to the RTO finances and legal strategy. This is
consistent with the Bylaws, which allow a Board to consider confidential matters in
executive session. In this case, the RTO believes that these are subjects in which would
have adverse effect upon the finances of the RTO, are being discussed with an attorney,
the immediate knowledge which could have an adverse effect in the legal position of the
Committee or protected by law due to those rules protecting personal privacy and certain
business information. Motion seconded by Mr. Miller.
A roll call was taken, and the motion to enter into Executive Session passed unanimously.
9. EXECUTIVE SESSION – 12:23 pm. To discuss matters with an attorney for the
Committee, the immediate knowledge of which could have an adverse effect on
the legal position of the committee or Authority.
The RTO Governance Committee reconvened its regular meeting at 1:37 p.m. Chair Thayer
advised that the RTO did not take any formal action on matters discussed while in Executive
Session, except as authorized in the Bylaws 5.12.2, to give directions to an attorney or to
negotiate regarding the handling of specific legal matters or pending litigation.
8. NEW BUSINESS
A. Election of Officers
Chair Thayer explained the process for the election of officers is contained in the Bylaws and was
followed. Chair Thayer read the slate of nominees for Chair, Vice Chair, and Secretary. Chair
Thayer requested that each member mark their ballots once and turn them in. The Committee
decided to take a brief at-ease while the votes are tallied. Chair Thayer opened the floor for
comments.
Arthur Miller commented that there is utility representation on the RTO and the Bradley Lake
Project Management Committee (BPMC). He believes it is appropriate from an equitable utility
perspective that the RTO rotate the Chair position by utility in order to have equal
representation for each utility to serve. He recognizes that GVEA is currently Chair of BPMC, and
MEA is Vice Chair of BPMC, which leaves the other utilities to have a role in other capacities. He
suggested that going forward, it is appropriate to have a process as he described.
Mr. Janorschke expressed appreciation that the ballots indicate the name of the utility rather
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than individual names of representatives.
There were no other comments or questions. The ballots were collected.
A brief at-ease was taken.
The RTO Governance Committee reconvened its regular meeting at 1:47 p.m.
Chair Thayer requested Ms. Grovier reveal the results of the election. Ms. Grovier informed that
MEA was elected as Chair, and AEA was elected Secretary/Treasurer. Ms. Grovier indicated that
another vote needs to be held for Vice Chair because no candidate received a majority. There
was no objection. The candidates for Vice Chair are GVEA and CEA. The ballots were collected.
Ms. Grovier announced that GVEA was elected as Vice Chair.
Chair Thayer reiterated for the record the results of the officer elections; MEA will serve as Chair,
GVEA will serve as Vice Chair, and AEA will serve as the Secretary/Treasurer.
Ms. Grovier advised that this slate of officers will serve until the election at the next annual
meeting. There were no other comments or questions.
B. Annual RTO Budget
Chair Thayer discussed that the Annual RTO Budget included in the packet is a draft
administrative budget for the sole purpose of providing an estimate of the expenses for FY26.
The greatest unknown variable is contractual services during the regulatory process. Chair
Thayer commented that the Committee has 90 days from July 1, 2025, and can take the
information under advisement and report back. He asked for feedback from the Committee.
MOTION: A motion was made by Mr. Izzo to approve the Annual RTO Budget, as
presented. Motion seconded by Mr. Million.
A roll call was taken, and the motion to approve the Annual RTO Budget, as presented,
passed unanimously.
C. RTO D&O Insurance
Chair Thayer noted that the RTO D&O Insurance is included as a proposed number in the
budget. He asked if it is the will of the Committee to request AEA to review the cost, and if it is
within the budgeted amount, to procure such insurance. There was no objection. Chair Thayer
indicated that AEA would procure the insurance and inform the Committee of the amount.
There were no comments or questions.
D. Proposed Meeting Schedule
Chair Thayer highlighted the proposed meeting schedule included in the packet.
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Mr. Janorschke indicated that he will be traveling on February 28, 2025. Chair Thayer noted that
he can send an email specifying his alternate representative for that meeting.
Mr. Izzo commented that Tony Zellers is the alternate internally for MEA. Mr. Izzo asked if the
RTO follows the BPMC format in submitting letters indicating alternate representatives. Ms.
Bertolini requested that members who want to appoint an alternate can provide the information
to her, and she will add them to the email correspondence. Additionally, she noted that
members can also include staff on the RTO email correspondence.
Chair Thayer suggested that members provide the primary and secondary representatives for
the Governance Committee, the point of contact for the legal Working Group and the Technical
Working Group.
Mr. Miller stated he will also be unavailable on February 28, 2025.
Chair Thayer discussed that the February 28, 2005 meeting was scheduled to provide members
with information after the Working Group meeting. He believes that the scheduled Teams
meetings can be more flexible in their dates. Chair Thayer requested that members provide
alternatives dates. There were no other comments or questions.
10. MEMBERS COMMENTS
Mr. Hickey expressed appreciation to the Working Groups, and specifically to Ms. Grovier, Mr.
Heckman, and Mr. Monroe for their great updates. Mr. Hickey noted that he feels comfortable
that the deadlines will be met.
Mr. Miller echoed Mr. Hickey’s comments, and specifically thanked Ms. Grovier, Mr. Monroe, and
Mr. Heckman for their excellent efforts. He expressed his understanding of the amount of work
it has taken thus far and that amount of work will increase significantly between now and July 1,
2025.
Mr. Jenkin thanked the individuals who developed the budget. He noted that there was not
much discussion on the budget, which is recognition of the good job.
Mr. Million echoed previous comments.
Mr. Izzo echoed the previous comments.
Mr. Janorschke echoed the previous comments.
Chair Thayer congratulated MEA and GVEA on their election. He thanked Ms. Bertolini, Karen
Bell and Mark Ziesmer, AEA, for their excellent work and coordination efforts.
11. NEXT MEETING DATE – February 28, 2025
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Chair Thayer noted that the next Teams meeting is currently scheduled for February 28, 2025,
until a different time is selected near that date.
12. ADJOURNMENT
There being no further business for the committee, the meeting adjourned at 1:57 p.m.