HomeMy WebLinkAboutApproved Minutes May 9 2012 MeetingRenewable Energy Fund Advisory Committee Meeting
May 9, 2012 — Loussac Library Public Conference Room
Anchorage, Alaska
1:00 pm to 5:00 pm
Approved Minutes
1. Call to Order
The Renewable Energy Fund Advisory Committee (REFAC) convened at 1:12 p.m., with Chairman Vince
Beltrami presiding.
2. Roll Call
Committee Members
Chairman Vince Beltrami
Jodi Mitchell
Chris Rose
Rep. Bill Thomas
Brad Reeve (excused)
Jim Posey (phone)
3. Public Comments
AEA Staff
Sara Fisher -Goad
Peter Crimp
Jim Strandberg
Rebecca Garrett
Rich Stromberg
Sean Skaling
Doug Ott
Devany Plentovich
Deborah Vo
Shawn Calfa
Helen Traylor
Joshua Craft
Shauna Howell
May Clark
Other Participants
Chris Badger, VEIL
Ray Baker, Accu-Type
Depositions
Brian Bjorkquist, DOL
Julie Estey, ACEP
Rep. Paul Seaton (phone)
David Hill, VEIC
Sandy Burd, Senator
Hoffman's Office (phone)
Rep. Thomas said the Governor signed HB250, allowing 10 more years of the REF program.
4. Agenda Comments
Mr. Rose suggested amending the agenda to allow more than the 30-minute comment time after the
VEIC presentation. However, in the interest of time, Chair Beltrami stated the agenda shall remain as is.
5. Approval of Meeting Minutes
MOTION: Ms. Mitchell moved to approve the meeting minutes from January 13, 2012, REFAC
meeting. Seconded by Mr. Rose. The minutes were unanimously approved.
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6. RE Grant Process Evaluation Results
Mr. Badger introduced himself, and then Mr. Crimp spoke about the evaluation process. He said AEA
solicited program evaluation proposals in November that was designed around help received from the
Clean Energy Alliance Program. The work is divided into two parts; 1) process evaluation and 2) an
assessment of impacts. Three proposals were received and Vermont Energy Investment Corporation was
selected. He said following the Governor's Office, AEA staff and public review, the draft was completed
then forwarded to REFAC. The process review will be completed in June.
Mr. Badger said Phase 1— Process Evaluation, began in December of 2011 and was completed in March
of 2012 and contains three major parts: 1) documentation review, 2) looking at program staff and
processes, soliciting feedback from stakeholders, and 3) synthesis of those comments and pulling
together recommendations. Phase 2 — Impact Evaluation, contains: 1) analysis of program costs, 2)
assess success and program challenges. VEIC is a nonprofit corporation, implementing both energy
efficiency and renewable energy programs in multiple states. He said they partnered with the Alaska
Center for Energy and Power (ACEP) which has brought technological expertise and on -the -ground
knowledge in how the renewable energy industry works in the State of Alaska. He said Ms. Estey is
present from ACEP; however, Gwen Holdman could not attend in person. David Hill is the Sr. Project
Advisor with VEIC who coordinates with ACEP. Ms. Estey and Ms. Holdmann led the team on the ACEP
side, supported by Mr. Dennis Witmer, who is doing the analysis work. Mr. Badger is the project
manager supported by two other VEIC personnel, performing stakeholder interviews, as well as the
online survey feedback process. Mr. Badger introduced Mr. Hill, who spoke telephonically, to discuss
the higher level recommendations of the evaluation.
Mr. Hill said he had an opportunity to meet many of the meeting attendees in Alaska in January and at
the Business of Clean Energy in Alaska Conference. He said they used the term "finding" in the report
and throughout as a reflection of direct feedback from the various stakeholders interviewed.
Overview of Recommendations
General Recommendation 1: Establish & maintain a higher level of program differentiation
Mr. Hill said the broadest lesson learned during the process evaluation was that the grant program as
currently structured serves a very broad and wide span of project types through a single solicitation and
serving that breadth of customers participating in the program is admirable. He said there is room in the
program for AEA to provide support for those, but at the same time, it's too big a span under the current
single solicitation model. More differentiation will help the program and will give a clearer sense of
objectives by market type. Currently, the program serves a wide span and size of project types, phases,
and technologies that are all compared under one solicitation — an inherent challenge that can come
into direct conflict. Perhaps a higher level of program differentiation would be useful.
There were no questions regarding Recommendation 1.
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General Recommendation 2: Coordinate and/or tie program design & funding decisions to more
closely to rural infrastructure, regional energy planning and state level renewable energy goals.
Mr. Hill said an example of a regional plan for rural infrastructure upgrade and the current format for
the solicitation may not garner solicitations that are consistent with that regional energy plan or
incoming upgrade opportunities. It's more of a bottom -up approach relying on the market to tell what
the best opportunities are. There could be some benefit from having more structured, targeted
strategic objectives and tying it to activities, such as clustering and funding around specific technologies
and regional energy plans and other initiatives.
There were no questions regarding Recommendation 2.
General Recommendation 3: Provide more proactive and targeted services to markets.
Mr. Hill said there are times when certain levels of technical assistance training and outreach could be
very effective in helping to approve application quality, project development and execution. There are
project types that may not be best served in terms of both the overall best interest of the state and
taking the money as far as it can go to attain the state's renewable energy goals. Developing an account
management approach may be more proactive, where AEA could use a single point of contact to help
regions or villages understand the different opportunities available in their communities, allowing them
to participate.
Ms. Fisher -Goad commented (to Rep. Thomas) that AEA wishes to provide more technical assistance,
however, we must avoid putting undue influences on applicants when helping them. She requested
REFAC advice on how AEA can provide more technical assistance. Rep. Thomas said the money is there,
people just have to go after it and fund programs in their communities; for example, Southeast
legislators funded the Southeast Conference.
Mr. Beltrami said the Denali Commission FY2012 work plan was approved with a line item providing
$300,000 for technical assistance. Mr. Badger said he was aware of the funding but believed an
independent evaluator should provide the technical and economic expertise on behalf of the
communities. Rep. Thomas noted $5 M was carved out for emerging technology and believes the money
could be appropriated to the Denali Commission or other group for project recommendations.
Mr. Rose commented that the first three recommendations are interrelated and further discussion
should be conducted accordingly. Rep. Seaton asked if there is a mechanism to ensure that local
entities request support. Mr. Crimp responded that the basic tenet of the Renewable Energy Fund
Program has been proper preconstruction and development. He also stated that biomass projects in
particular need technical and economic feasibility, as well as community support.
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General Recommendation 4: Increase sharing of lessons learned and emphasize economic as well as
energy impacts.
Mr. Hill said this recommendation is to provide coordinated and technical assistance and approaches
should not undercut the opportunity for local initiatives or unique conditions to help differentiate
projects. He said as projects come online, they will provide more information on lessons learned in
terms of energy and economic impacts.
General Recommendation 5: Streamline and modify funding timelines.
Mr. Hill said projects in Alaska can be difficult in terms of construction timing, logistics and transport. He
suggested that AEA could authorize resources assessments without waiting for direct legislative
authorization. Mr. Badger said Recommendation 5 considers opportunities to streamline and modify
the funding timeline (giving AEA more independence in identifying and finding appropriate ways to lead
by example). Ms. Fisher -Goad said we are looking at recommendations and leaving the details to the
Department of Law and the Administration on the existing program versus using a legislative approach.
Applications should be solicited by March to be included in the Governor's budget. Mr. Badger
suggested separating construction money and resource assessment under AEA's budget to allow more
flexibility to move ahead on projects without legislative approval. There will be constraints on
construction money based on what the legislature appropriates from year to year. Rep. Thomas stated
that they did not appropriate it this year because they did not know the bill was being drafted but it
could come available in January. He state that the fast track supplement was out early but in the past it
has gone out with the capital budget. Ms. Fisher -Goad said we should evaluate those projects that can
be done without adjusting the statutory program.
Mr. Badger said for Process Evaluation research, there are six priority items identified in the
development of evaluation criteria: 1) program outreach, 2) RFA process, 3) RFA project feasibility and
evaluation, 4) feedback to REFAC, 5) grant awards process and 6) grant administration. Primary
research with stakeholders was performed through direct in -person and phone interviews and using an
online survey.
Rep. Thomas pointed out that Legislative Budget & Audit (LB&A) has the authority to reappropriate
funds. Ms. Fisher -Goad said that LB&A is a one-time deal but a good way to address that is to work with
Legislative Finance. Mr. Bjorkquist agreed and said LB&A can reallocate funding in a "waterfall' effect.
Mr. Badger said there were three groups of key program stakeholders: 1) individuals, 2) legislators, and
3) energy advocates. He discussed the RFA process recommendations which include: 1) development of
a framework to articulate specific renewable energy goals, 2) determine differences in projects types
and phases, 3) identification of methods to provide support and training for communities seeking to
participate in the REGRP, 4) review options for direct grants to support feasibility studies and smaller
renewable energy applications, and 5) identify opportunities to create longer term visibility of the
program goals and objectives - allowing for long-term investments to hire staff for future planning.
Visibility — meaning a clear and positive signal. He said there was a concern about guidance issues
between developers, manufacturers and AEA, stating there is a blurry line between providing guidance
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versus telling project developers exactly what they need to do. Finding the right balance between all
impacted parties is very important. He encouraged defining what the differences are between a local
match and matching funds that might be coming in through the federal government or other entity
where there isn't a vested interest and where there is local matching and engagement, there should be
an appropriate award as part of the evaluation process. ISER could be used as an economic resource in
evaluating proposals so that applicants could draw on expertise when requested. As the evaluation
process moves forward, there is a go/no-go part of the process that would be healthy for all participants
to ensure they are getting an appropriate level of evaluation and recognizing the balance against the
level of work required as part of the evaluation process. He suggested providing the technical and
economic scoring and feedback so that unsuccessful participants are provided enough information to
improve their applications in the next round. Many participants received feedback, but it was
inconsistent. He pointed out that support for the project is weighted as part of the evaluation process
and there is no counter -weight from an oppositional perspective. Community support or opposition
should be accounted for. Other states allow for public input, but it comes down to a regulatory body to
balance that.
Mr. Crimp said a good example is the Grant Lake Hydro project in which a number of letters were
received opposing funding for a feasibility analysis, which the REFAC discussed that the permitting risk
was the basis for providing feasibility funding. He said the Department of Natural Resources permitting
process determines the best interest finding for the state or for the federal government on a project.
Mr. Badger pointed out there is a lack of understanding of REFAC's role in the program, as well as the
membership. A lot reflects on the interaction with the REFAC and AEA in providing guidance, but the
stakeholders were not reflecting that. Therefore, he recommended defining the REFAC role and how
AEA interacts by setting annual achievement goals and performing public outreach to identify barriers.
Timing and duration of the award process has significant project impacts and finding the appropriate
balance to make sure the program is providing assurances to the state that the funding is being applied
appropriately. A secondary goal is to help get more cost-effective projects in the state and that any
opportunity for reducing those costs thorough efficiencies would also benefit the state. Providing
technical support and guidance is another way to ensure cost reductions in the industry. Stakeholders
were pleased with the knowledgeable AEA team, but it seems stretched from a staffing level. Lessons
learned and the opportunity to inform the industry of what technologies and applications are working or
not working is coming back through the reporting process. He recommended developing a detailed
staffing plan to look at issues at a comprehensive level and approach individual communities; or operate
on a state level to try to figure out the most effective way to develop renewable energy in the state.
Recess: 3:02 p.m.
Reconvene: 3:20 p.m.
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Ms. Fisher -Goad announced that Mr. Crimp is retiring from AEA as Deputy Director of Alternative Energy
& Energy Efficiency and Sean Skaling will replace him. She also announced that Shauna Howell will be
leaving AEA after 22 years of service and will be replaced by May Clark.
Mr. Hill said the impact evaluation will look at cost -benefit analysis at both the project and program
levels and we should develop a framework going forward for potential applicants and program
managers to communicate the benefits out there as an ongoing effort. He said he appreciated
everyone's time and participation in listening to the report. He said comments or additional feedback
should be directed to Shawn Calfa, AEA's Grants Administrator by June 1.
Chair Beltrami thanked Mr. Badger and Mr. Hill for the presentation and opened up the meeting for
questions or comments.
Mr. Rose also thanked Mr. Badger and Mr. Hill. He said one of the recommendations they have been
talking about is to be more strategic in requesting projects. He favored figuring out how to deal with the
first three recommendations. He asked staff what could be done internally and administratively without
asking the legislature and how would the next programs fits in the REF, the larger policy goals and other
state programs. Ms. Fisher -Goad stated preconstruction and construction are a large program
differential, which may be one way to achieve a decent balance of funding and a statewide distribution.
Regarding caps or not on projects, she requested REFAC guidance; she said she is hesitant to suggest
differentiating by region — rural versus Railbelt, which defeats the purpose of a statewide process. We
will keep these recommendations in mind as to what can be done in Round VI versus what will be dealt
with in the deliberative process with the Administration. Mr. Rose suggested AEA could do
reconnaissance and feasibility funding through program funds, then the money from the Legislature
could go mostly to construction and design. Ms. Fisher -Goad said that is currently under consideration.
There are three ways of funding: the RE Fund, EETF and another programmatic approach. Mr. Rose said
the EETFAC is serving its purpose, but inquired as to how we will move forward with a pilot project for
tidal and wave energy if there's no money for the reconnaissance study.
Mr. Badger asked about AEA's proposed loan programs. Ms. Fisher -Goad said it's an AIDEA fund for
larger projects and the fund amount is $125 M. Perhaps reps from REFAC could attend a future board
meeting to address this issue.
Mr. Rose asked Rep. Thomas and Rep. Seaton if they thought there would be any pushback from Railbelt
legislators if AEA decided to fund feasibility projects only and not construction projects. Rep. Thomas
said the discussion reverts to the $6 B hydro being built versus funding smaller projects. Mr. Rose said it
is still important to diversify and Rep. Thomas agreed. Rep. Seaton pointed out that the Railbelt isn't
interconnected and they aren't all big projects and we should balance the project sizes throughout the
state. Mr. Rose asked if there was any support for having part of the next solicitation be more strategic
and focused by asking applicants to meet a certain standard to compete to design better projects. Ms.
Fisher -Goad said that may not be possible due to regulations and how projects are evaluated. Mr. Rose
asked about creating minimal technical feasibility standards for applications. Mr. Crimp said there have
been concerns already that AEA has been too prescriptive, but that could possibly be achieved through
working groups. Ms. Fisher -Goad said statute program standards should be met first and then additional
information could be incorporated into a funding request. Mr. Rose suggested using the fund to
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incentivize innovation and continued development of technologies, but also focus on technologies that
have worked best, especially in rural areas. Mr. Badger pointed out that project applications could have
a capacity limit, recognizing there is a new mechanism for funding and larger projects tend to be more
cost-effective. He said projects get reset on an application basis and must go through the process again
to get compared against the new set of projects. Once the qualified project is in the queue, they can
move forward. Mr. Hill agreed there is a benefit to not recompeting, but believes the queue can
become an impediment. Mr. Badger stated in order to make it more cost effective for the state, the
industry needs to be moved forward on an annual basis by placing capacity size or performance level
limitations on the applications.
Rep. Thomas asked how the regional balance will be kept and who will monitor it. Mr. Badger said it
would be over multiple years and there is an appropriate spread in awarding. Chair Beltrami said many
areas that are incapable of putting together a best practices proposal will be falling by the wayside if
they can't compete and don't have the proper amount of technical assistance to be able to achieve that.
Mr. Badger said that the communities who need a lot of additional support, renewable energy may not
be their quickest deployable resource, but can come to bear on a longer -term basis. Mr. Crimp said
what is needed is good, detailed planning in a systematic way which involves a lot of public involvement.
Mr. Skaling said for the communities that didn't have a lot of human resources, but had a great need, a
technical assistance program was put together so that it was an easy application and then they were
paired up with someone to help out, so that the state dollars were put toward the best projects in the
places of need as mentioned by the statute. Mr. Crimp said heating buildings in rural areas could be a
basic focus of the Renewable Energy Fund. Mr. Rose said we need to be able to go back to the
Legislature with hard data to show that the money was spent as efficiently as possible. He stated these
ideas seem to be pointing toward writing a charter for the Committee, including duties and priorities of
fundamentals. Mr. Hill suggested asking AEA for help with a program design to help achieve REFAC
goals.
Chair Beltrami asked if any specific actions needed to be taken regarding the recommendations in terms
of incorporating them into the next solicitation. Ms. Fisher -Goad suggested showing the
recommendations based upon the findings from Vermont Energy at the next solicitation and how they
plan on addressing those recommendations. Rep. Thomas suggested a public relations person might
write up what the REFAC is going to do and send it to all the coops in the state and the legislators could
send it out in their newsletters.
Mr. Rose agreed with the recommendations and asked Ms. Fisher -Goad if she could report at the next
meeting on how the recommendations can be implemented in the short and long-term. In the
meantime, Mr. Rose suggested starting work on a charter and he would be happy to set up a
subcommittee for the next meeting, and requested feedback from members, and suggested prioritizing
duties and values of the Committee. Mr. Badger said he could forward the Energy Trust of Oregon's
Advisory Committee charter as an example. Mr. Hill stated it would help to state that we will provide
strategic guidance and advice as the program moves forward to develop the most renewable energy and
that we will be engaged in setting long-term goals and direction that the market can reference to help
gauge the success of the program and then sell the success of the program to the stakeholders.
Mr. Beltrami requested Mr. Rose email the REFAC with an outline of charter ideas and seek feedback
that way. Mr. Rose stated he will try to have something prepared for the next meeting.
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7. REGIONAL ENERGY PLANNING PROGRAM UPDATE
Deborah Vo, AEA Project Manager overseeing the regional energy planning, said currently AEA is under
contract with the Calista and Ahtna Region. The Tanana Chiefs Conference has a direct grant from the
Denali Commission and is working on their regional energy plan. We are also working closely with
Bristol Bay, Northwest Arctic Borough, Kawerak and Aleut in developing their regional planning. The
regional planners will meet June 11 and 12. The outcomes of the plans should identify the priorities of
the projects. Mr. Crimp said there may be recurring themes and policies seen throughout the state. Mr.
Rose said communities should be informed that building efficiency is the easiest and most cost way to
save energy. He asked if there was going to be some outreach and education effort in the community
before the deliberations begin. Ms. Vo provided examples of the Calista Region's outreach program.
Mr. Rose asked what role the state will have in approving the plans and after the regional plan is
complete, how will the state implement it. Ms. Fisher -Goad said the goal is to provide good information
about good projects and allow the ability to make decisions and recommendations on funding. They are
not going to be adopted as regulated plans. Each project needs to be evaluated on its own merits.
Mr. Skaling asked if more weight could be added to regional plans in the scoring system. Both Mr. Rose
and Mr. Hill affirmed that. Rep. Thomas said his concern about regional plans is the smaller population
areas are under -represented. Ms. Fisher -Goad said the regional plan isn't going to just look at
renewable projects or energy efficiency; but will also look at transmission and potential natural gas
projects.
Mr. Badger said VEIC will present partial results of the impact analysis either telephonically or in person
at the next meeting.
S. NEXT MEETING DATE
The next meeting will be held Thursday, June 14, 2012, from 1:00 to 3:00 p.m.
9. ADJOURNMENT
The meeting was adjourned at 4:54 p.m.
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